Question regarding my MAME Set

[uberpubert69]

I have .153 Fullset of MAME and was wondering if that means I have CPS1 CPS2 and CPS3 games, as well as Zinc games and Sega Model 2 games. I've been thinking about setting up Zinc and Model 2 in my settings. Are they superior to MAME in terms of speed?

[Adultery]

I use integrated Model 2 support in GameEx in the mame section. It just works better.

As for ZiNc, MAME does these just fine, pass on it. It's almost as big a headache as TTX.

[KRC]

I setup Zinc as a seperate emulator

Use Zinc 1.1 emulator and run games through the Zenith frontend for Zinc.

Get Zenith here

http://www.sovmax.narod.ru/zenith/index-en.html

First off, get ZiNc and all the plugins from here.

Now set a folder for ZiNc somewhere and extract ZiNc. Then move all your roms to the rom folder it created. Extract all the plugins (winterblast etc.) to the ZiNc folder as well.

Now I hope you have some time set aside for this next part, its a doosy. Extract ZeNith to the ZiNc folder and launch it. Assuming you did everything correctly, it should launch and will show a list of games on the left of a nice gui. You can always download snaps for the gui from the ZeNith site as well. Now, Star Gladiator is my first game in the list. On the right of the gui, configure all the game settings, video and especially, the controls. You will need to do this for EVERY game. Video is generally the same the controls have to be done every time for every rom. You can launch a game with ZeNith just to double check the buttons match how you want.

Hooray! You have it all done. Now we try out a command line in GameEx. ZiNc will only run from a cmd line. ZeNith should have saved all your control settings for each rom onto a .cfg file. This can be edited but, I'm really not getting into that right now.

Anyway, here is the command line we will use -

zinc.exe [ROM] --use-slow-geometry=yes --renderer=renderer-ogl.znc --use-renderer-cfg-file=zenith-renderer.cfg --controller=controller-winterblast.znc --use-controller-cfg-file=zenith-controller.cfg --roms-directory=.\roms

When setting it up as a emulator, use the ZiNc rom directory that is in the ZiNc folder you set this all up in. If not, non of this will work.

[uberpubert69]

I appreciate all teh info, but does my Romset already contain the Roms for Zinc and all those other arcade cabs? Also does my mame set have all neogeo mvs games?

[KRC]

I appreciate all teh info, but does my Romset already contain the Roms for Zinc and all those other arcade cabs? Also does my mame set have all neogeo mvs games?

Im no MAME guru but I think Zinc roms are there yes, Official Zinc roms use the weird numbering method, instead of a rom name they are a number.

Neo Geo MVS roms are there aswell, so are CPS,CPS2,CPS3, Nintendo VS, Nintendo Arcade Systems, Playchoice-10,AAE.Model 2 and there are others too.

[KRC]

An easier method to breakdown your set wuld be to use your existing MAME set and setup a new emulator using a MAP file.

For example,

Setup a new emulator in GameEx called Capcom CPS, Point all the directories to your MAME directories but on the advanced emulator setup choose a different MAP file, this way it will be using your MAME set but only showing CPS roms.

[KRC]

Also heres a quick example I made of a possible Neo Geo entry

[uberpubert69]

An easier method to breakdown your set wuld be to use your existing MAME set and setup a new emulator using a MAP file.

For example,

Setup a new emulator in GameEx called Capcom CPS, Point all the directories to your MAME directories but on the advanced emulator setup choose a different MAP file, this way it will be using your MAME set but only showing CPS roms.

My MAME section already had CPS sections and Neo Geo sections, I just didn't know the completeness of those games. It would appear I have all of those games for each cab type. The only sections I didn't have were Zinc games and Model 2 games until I set them up.

[KRC]

I cant really comment on the GameEx MAME integration as I have never used it, but in my opinion it would be best to setup Zinc as a seperate emulator to get the most out of the emulator and the games. I'm abit OCD when it comes to these sort of emulators.

But for sure you will need the numbered roms, If you feel up for a challenge with getting Zinc to work then go for it, Adultery has a point in saying that its a PITA but its well worth it when its setup.

[uberpubert69]

I cant really comment on the GameEx MAME integration as I have never used it, but in my opinion it would be best to setup Zinc as a seperate emulator to get the most out of the emulator and the games. I'm abit OCD when it comes to these sort of emulators.

But for sure you will need the numbered roms, If you feel up for a challenge with getting Zinc to work then go for it, Adultery has a point in saying that its a PITA but its well worth it when its setup.

I'll give it a shot. In the meantime, does anyone know what this multicpu.exe in the Model 2 emulator is for? Is it better than the regular emulator.exe? I have a quad core CPU so can I utilize this?

[Adultery]

Yeah, you would want to use the multicore exe for your setup.

[uberpubert69]

Yeah, you would want to use the multicore exe for your setup.

my settings for the resolution don't get saved :/ I set it in the .ini and then I use the .exe to choose custom resolution and when I exit and open again the emulator defaults to 600x800.

[DazzleHP]

At a quick glance at this topic i would say the following:

Yes the full MAME romset will have the all the CPS, Zinc etc roms included. When GameEx asks something along the lines of: "do you want Zinc, Model2, Daphne to use a dedicated emu" then that exactly what it is asking. If you choose "No" to such questions, GE will run them through MAME, which isn't always the best route to choose. If your rig can handle it, then most of the time i would choose to run through MAME, to keep things simple. But if your rig is having problems running particular hardware, then maybe setting up a separate dedicated emu is what is needed.

For instance, CPS games will run fine through MAME with a decent rig, but if you don't have uber specs they may run like crap. That is when you might want GE to load CPS games through a diff emu, that takes advantage of your hardware. That's what those settings are for

GE in that case will treat MAME as one consistent entity, but it will run certain games (like Daphne, CPS, Zinc etc) through specific means if you choose to do so. Hope that made sense lol

[uberpubert69]

At a quick glance at this topic i would say the following:

Yes the full MAME romset will have the all the CPS, Zinc etc roms included. When GameEx asks something along the lines of: "do you want Zinc, Model2, Daphne to use a dedicated emu" then that exactly what it is asking. If you choose "No" to such questions, GE will run them through MAME, which isn't always the best route to choose. If your rig can handle it, then most of the time i would choose to run through MAME, to keep things simple. But if your rig is having problems running particular hardware, then maybe setting up a separate dedicated emu is what is needed.

For instance, CPS games will run fine through MAME with a decent rig, but if you don't have uber specs they may run like crap. That is when you might want GE to load CPS games through a diff emu, that takes advantage of your hardware. That's what those settings are for

GE in that case will treat MAME as one consistent entity, but it will run certain games (like Daphne, CPS, Zinc etc) through specific means if you choose to do so. Hope that made sense lol

You can find my Specs here http://www.gameex.info/forums/topic/14642-anyone-know-how-to-overclock-pc-stuff/ Also speaking of Daphne, are those games worth the space they take up? Not sure if I want them or not.

[Adultery]

Honestly? Nah. I played Dragon's Lair two or three times and that's it.

I guess I have them just to have them, because I never play them. But m'eh, they're there, and I literally have TBs on my home server so the space isn't an issue.

[DazzleHP]

Honestly? Nah. I played Dragon's Lair two or three times and that's it.

I guess I have them just to have them, because I never play them. But m'eh, they're there, and I literally have TBs on my home server so the space isn't an issue.

I'll second that, if you didn't play laserdisc games in the arcade, then you won't ever use em. If space is of concern to you then no, i would say get rid - you can fill said space with much, MUCH more.