u-man Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Hi Community,i have completed a list of MAME games that are accidently filtered by GameEx, if you choose to show only working games. GameEx starts then to filter all "status preliminary" Roms, which normally is ok, but you will loose about 160 games, which only have a sound problem or no sound at all, but beside of this, are working normally. there are pretty nice games, Shmups, Bmups, Lightguns etc.so i created a list for the "dont filter these roms" to get those jewels back. these games are not like the imperfect ones, they are marked as "preliminary" from the MAME devs. ... because of the lack of sound or other stuff.a game that really doesnt work, have a "preliminary" status for the emulation. those games dont or will not start with MAME...but "preliminary" status for color, sound and graphics, are games that can be started AND played with MAME.i think that would be a nice start, to contribute for the databases .maybe we could extend the filter options in GameEx by doing so. or put them in a extra category like "Preliminary Games".beside of this, i would like to know, how the "no clones, unless better" thingy works. it would be very nice to have a list of the clone-games that are actually better than the original ones.with all these stuff, you will have around about 3700 MAME games in GameEx, if you have a complete Rom-Set... CHDs excluded.what do you think about this? is this something of help?All the best, u-manjust copy this into your "dont filter these roms" of the setup-wizard in the MAME section and do a update list afterwards:;280zzzap;;alibaba;;ace;;attackfc;;banbam;;batmanfr;;bballoon;;bbprot;;beaminv;;birdtry;;bishjan;;bnstars1;;bowl3d;;boxer;;brdrline;;bullsdrt;;cannonbp;;cannonb2;;carpolo;;catacomb;;catchp;;catnmous;;claybust;;clayshoo;;couple;;crazyfgt;;cyclemb;;dacholer;;dai3wksi;;dealer;;demndrgn;;destroyr;;digger;;dorachan;;dribling;;dwarfd;;eggor;;embargo;;fcombat;;fghthist;;fgoal;;fireone;;fireshrk;;fitfight;;flyball;;fmaniac3;;galxwars;;ghox;;glfgreat;;goindol;;gunchamp;;hachamf;;hapytour;;headoni;;heiankyo;;histryma;;hrdtimes;;igmo;;invrvnge;;jongkyo;;josvolly;;kdynastg;;kickgoal;;kngtmare;;koikoi;;kong;;kov;;kovplus;;lagunar;;laserbat;;lastbank;;lastfght;;ltcasino;;luckgrln;;luctoday;;magodds;;marinedt;;mastkin;;mgolf;;mightguy;;minferno;;moguchan;;mpoker;;msisaac;;murogem;;ncv2;;ninjemak;;nsub;;olibochu;;onna34ro;;othello;;panther;;pipeline;;portrait;;ppcar;;primrage;;ptrmj;;quartet;;quiz365;;quizmstr;;quizrd12;;quizrd17;;quizrd18;;quizrd22;;quizrd23;;quizrd34;;redclash;;roadriot;;rockduck;;rtriv;;rumba;;safari;;salmndr2;;samurai;;sbasebal;;sexyboom;;sflush;;shpeng;;skychut;;skydest;;spacbeam;;spaceg;;spaceint;;spacetrk;;spcfrcii;;spclaser;;spclforc;;speedfrk;;spfghmk2;;spotty;;ssfindo;;sshot;;ssingles;;sspacaho;;sspaceat;;sspeedr;;ssrj;;sstingry;;sstrangr;;stactics;;streetg2;;strvmstr;;suchipi;;superbon;;superwng;;targeth;;tceptor;;tekipaki;;timefgtr;;tjsb;;tmek;;tomcatsw;;touryuu;;tranqgun;;tturf;;twcup98;;vimana;;warpsped;;wbeachvl;;wink;;winspike;;xfiles;;zerohour; 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullPointer Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Nice list u-manThe one additional piece of information that might be helpful would be to supply the version of MAME that this would apply to. Being that the status of ROMs can potentially change from one version of MAME to the next, one would want to make sure they were applying this list to the correct version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
u-man Posted August 29, 2013 Author Share Posted August 29, 2013 off course the actual ....MAME 0149.u1and i want to keep the list up to date. so if a new version comes out, a new list will be posted.the good thing is, you cant mess up anything with your MAME, the bad thing is to found the new added ones , thats why i wrote, that it would be nice to have a extra category.i think i will make a additional list with the game names, so everyone can check the new added games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaUMi Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Thank you u-man!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
u-man Posted September 1, 2013 Author Share Posted September 1, 2013 hello again,as promised, i did a "Preliminary.ini". The following is true for MAME 0.149u1 and if you have a complete ROM set for it.1.) Copy this into your "dont filter these roms" of the setup-wizard in the MAME section:;280zzzap;;alibaba;;ace;;attackfc;;banbam;;batmanfr;;bballoon;;bbprot;;beaminv;;birdtry;;bishjan;;bnstars1;;bowl3d;;boxer;;brdrline;;bullsdrt;;cannonbp;;cannonb2;;carpolo;;catacomb;;catchp;;catnmous;;claybust;;clayshoo;;couple;;crazyfgt;;cyclemb;;dacholer;;dai3wksi;;dealer;;demndrgn;;destroyr;;digger;;dorachan;;dribling;;dwarfd;;eggor;;embargo;;fcombat;;fghthist;;fgoal;;fireone;;fireshrk;;fitfight;;flyball;;fmaniac3;;galxwars;;ghox;;glfgreat;;goindol;;gunchamp;;hachamf;;hapytour;;headoni;;heiankyo;;histryma;;hrdtimes;;igmo;;invrvnge;;jongkyo;;josvolly;;kdynastg;;kickgoal;;kngtmare;;koikoi;;kong;;kov;;kovplus;;lagunar;;laserbat;;lastbank;;lastfght;;ltcasino;;luckgrln;;luctoday;;magodds;;marinedt;;mastkin;;mgolf;;mightguy;;minferno;;moguchan;;mpoker;;msisaac;;murogem;;ncv2;;ninjemak;;nsub;;olibochu;;onna34ro;;othello;;panther;;pipeline;;portrait;;ppcar;;primrage;;ptrmj;;quartet;;quiz365;;quizmstr;;quizrd12;;quizrd17;;quizrd18;;quizrd22;;quizrd23;;quizrd34;;redclash;;roadriot;;rockduck;;rtriv;;rumba;;safari;;salmndr2;;samurai;;sbasebal;;sexyboom;;sflush;;shpeng;;skychut;;skydest;;spacbeam;;spaceg;;spaceint;;spacetrk;;spcfrcii;;spclaser;;spclforc;;speedfrk;;spfghmk2;;spotty;;ssfindo;;sshot;;ssingles;;sspacaho;;sspaceat;;sspeedr;;ssrj;;sstingry;;sstrangr;;stactics;;streetg2;;strvmstr;;suchipi;;superbon;;superwng;;targeth;;tceptor;;tekipaki;;timefgtr;;tjsb;;tmek;;tomcatsw;;touryuu;;tranqgun;;tturf;;twcup98;;vimana;;warpsped;;wbeachvl;;wink;;winspike;;xfiles;;zerohour;2.) In the MAME settings section of the GameEx Setup Wizard is the option "Custom Lists Path", put my "Preliminary.ini" there. If you dont have a folder there, create one, put the .ini in and point the Setup Wizard to there.3.) Do a update list afterwards. you will have a new section in the MAME section, called Preliminary.there you will find 161 new games . If you dont like the name "Preliminary", change the name of the .ini to whatever you like, but keep the .ini ending.have fun, u-manPS: Still want to know, how the "dont use clones, unless better" works or a list of them, that would be nice .Preliminary.ini 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adultery Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Probably by checking the status of the parent and clone from the mame output and comparing the status. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
u-man Posted September 1, 2013 Author Share Posted September 1, 2013 i wouldnt know how to do this with the tools i have . if i just have a list of the clones that are better than the origins, i would be fine . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adultery Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Yeah it would be a lot of leg work if you didn't automate it, that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 I made a tool to choose clones based on region. IOW if you live in the U.S. and not Japan Pacman is better than PucMan. It doesn't check the status of the game though. LINK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
u-man Posted September 2, 2013 Author Share Posted September 2, 2013 Yes , that looks interesting and it could help, thx Tempest.To be honest, i want that list, because if I look on my MAMEUIFX which i use often to take a quick look (nothing is faster and better) on games, those games would be hidden. Sadly MAMEUIFX has not that filter option like GameEx. so if you decide to have a clean list by using filters like "hide clones", which is casual and normal, those games are gone. i want to help the author of MAMEUIFX by giving him a list of better Clones, so that the list is not cluttered with stuff you usually dont want to see .its the same problem like my initially post here, but in a opposite way. For GameEx i have a solution now and yet i want some for MAMEUIFX . I am halfway through (the horizontal games) , but it is a pain in the ass to go completely through, like Adultery mentioned allready.So any help here is very nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 I can probably adapt the script for you, but programming is near the bottom of my list of things to do, so no promises, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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