Help with a MAME problem (please!)

**deadboy** · December 9, 2011

OK, first off Adultery's new plugin is sweet. Unfortunately it's exposed a problem for me.

I'm running a machine with two displays, one over the other. Typically I run GameEx with Game Extender but this error crops up even when I load the game from a DOS prompt so I'll just talk about it from there.

When I try to load any dual screen game on just one screen it runs fine.

From here out the cmd line I am running is:

mame64 punchout -numscreens 2 -log

When I run the same game on two screens it runs ok, except the displays are reversed. Meaning what should be on the main screen is on the secondary screen.

I can fix that thru the TAB menu in MAME from inside the game and it works fine till I close it.

Next time I try to run any game with more than one screen MAME crashes as soon as I open it up. Just get the message saying Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator has experienced an unexpected error and has been shut down. The error.log file contains one line which says "Physical Height 1920 Physical Width 1080", which is of course the resolution to which my main display is set.

I tried changing the resolution to every setting between 1920x1090 and 640x480. Same result with only the specifics numbers in the error.log being different.

I've tried using command promts to force it to run at particular aspects/resolutions with the same result. I've run it with different -video options and aside from it looking crappier and running slower it doesn't seem to remember how I had the screens so it defaults back to the switched displays which, as I said, runs fine.

Once I have set the screens to show on the correct display and the error starts the only way I can fix it is to run the mame64 -cc to reset the mame.ini

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

**Adultery** · December 9, 2011

Please post your MAME.ini after a crash so I can see what's going on.

**deadboy** · December 9, 2011

Does it log information there? Dunno why it's not in the error.log... grumble grumble. I'll post it as soon as I get home.

Thanks.

**deadboy** · December 9, 2011

Ok, here goes.

Well, not permitted to upload the actual file so...

From error.log

Physical width 1920, height 1080

Mame.ini:

#
# CORE CONFIGURATION OPTIONS
#
readconfig 1
writeconfig 0
#
# CORE SEARCH PATH OPTIONS
#
rompath roms
hashpath hash
samplepath samples
artpath artwork
ctrlrpath ctrlr
inipath .;ini
fontpath .
cheatpath cheat
crosshairpath crosshair
#
# CORE OUTPUT DIRECTORY OPTIONS
#
cfg_directory cfg
nvram_directory nvram
memcard_directory memcard
input_directory inp
state_directory sta
snapshot_directory snap
diff_directory diff
comment_directory comments
#
# CORE STATE/PLAYBACK OPTIONS
#
state
autosave 0
playback
record
mngwrite
aviwrite
wavwrite
snapname %g/%i
snapsize auto
snapview internal
burnin 0
#
# CORE PERFORMANCE OPTIONS
#
autoframeskip 0
frameskip 0
seconds_to_run 0
throttle 1
sleep 1
speed 1.0
refreshspeed 0
#
# CORE ROTATION OPTIONS
#
rotate 1
ror 0
rol 0
autoror 0
autorol 0
flipx 0
flipy 0
#
# CORE ARTWORK OPTIONS
#
artwork_crop 0
use_backdrops 1
use_overlays 1
use_bezels 1
use_cpanels 1
use_marquees 1
#
# CORE SCREEN OPTIONS
#
brightness 1.0
contrast 1.0
gamma 1.0
pause_brightness 0.65
effect none
#
# CORE VECTOR OPTIONS
#
antialias 1
beam 1.0
flicker 0
#
# CORE SOUND OPTIONS
#
sound 1
samplerate 48000
samples 1
volume 0
#
# CORE INPUT OPTIONS
#
coin_lockout 1
ctrlr
mouse 0
joystick 1
lightgun 0
multikeyboard 0
multimouse 0
steadykey 0
offscreen_reload 0
joystick_map auto
joystick_deadzone 0.3
joystick_saturation 0.85
natural 0
joystick_contradictory 0
coin_impulse 0
#
# CORE INPUT AUTOMATIC ENABLE OPTIONS
#
paddle_device keyboard
adstick_device keyboard
pedal_device keyboard
dial_device keyboard
trackball_device keyboard
lightgun_device keyboard
positional_device keyboard
mouse_device mouse
#
# CORE DEBUGGING OPTIONS
#
log 0
verbose 0
update_in_pause 0
debug 0
debugscript
debug_internal 0
#
# CORE MISC OPTIONS
#
bios
cheat 0
skip_gameinfo 0
uifont default
ramsize
confirm_quit 0
#
# WINDOWS DEBUGGING OPTIONS
#
oslog 0
watchdog 0
debugger_font "Lucida Console"
debugger_font_size 9
#
# WINDOWS PERFORMANCE OPTIONS
#
priority 0
multithreading 0
numprocessors auto
profile 0
bench 0
#
# WINDOWS VIDEO OPTIONS
#
video d3d
numscreens 1
window 0
maximize 1
keepaspect 1
prescale 1
waitvsync 0
syncrefresh 0
menu 0
#
# DIRECTDRAW-SPECIFIC OPTIONS
#
hwstretch 1
#
# DIRECT3D-SPECIFIC OPTIONS
#
d3dversion 9
filter 1
#
# DIRECT3D POST-PROCESSING OPTIONS
#
hlsl_enable 0
hlslpath hlsl
hlsl_ini_read 0
hlsl_ini_write 0
hlslini %g
hlsl_prescale_x 0
hlsl_prescale_y 0
hlsl_preset -1
hlsl_write
hlsl_snap_width 2048
hlsl_snap_height 1536
shadow_mask_alpha 0.0
shadow_mask_texture aperture.png
shadow_mask_x_count 320
shadow_mask_y_count 240
shadow_mask_usize 0.09375
shadow_mask_vsize 0.109375
curvature 0.0
pincushion 0.0
scanline_alpha 0.0
scanline_size 1.0
scanline_height 0.7
scanline_bright_scale 1.0
scanline_bright_offset 0.0
scanline_jitter 0.0
defocus 0.0,0.0
converge_x 0.0,0.0,0.0
converge_y 0.0,0.0,0.0
radial_converge_x 0.0,0.0,0.0
radial_converge_y 0.0,0.0,0.0
red_ratio 1.0,0.0,0.0
grn_ratio 0.0,1.0,0.0
blu_ratio 0.0,0.0,1.0
saturation 1.0
offset 0.0,0.0,0.0
scale 1.0,1.0,1.0
power 1.0,1.0,1.0
floor 0.0,0.0,0.0
phosphor_life 0.0,0.0,0.0
yiq_enable 0
yiq_cc 3.59754545
yiq_a 0.5
yiq_b 0.5
yiq_o 0.0
yiq_p 1.0
yiq_n 1.0
yiq_y 6.0
yiq_i 1.2
yiq_q 0.6
yiq_scan_time 52.6
yiq_phase_count 2
#
# PER-WINDOW VIDEO OPTIONS
#
screen auto
aspect auto
resolution auto
view auto
screen0 auto
aspect0 auto
resolution0 auto
view0 auto
screen1 auto
aspect1 auto
resolution1 auto
view1 auto
screen2 auto
aspect2 auto
resolution2 auto
view2 auto
screen3 auto
aspect3 auto
resolution3 auto
view3 auto
#
# FULL SCREEN OPTIONS
#
triplebuffer 0
switchres 0
full_screen_brightness 1.0
full_screen_contrast 1.0
full_screen_gamma 1.0
#
# WINDOWS SOUND OPTIONS
#
audio_latency 2
#
# INPUT DEVICE OPTIONS
#
hide_cursor 1
dual_lightgun 0

**Adultery** · December 10, 2011

Hmm.. d3d problem?

**deadboy** · December 10, 2011

So you don't see anything in the .ini explaining why it's happening?

I just can't figure out why it'll load with the displays set default and works with them switched but crashes when I've set them to load the otherway. I'd think if it was strictly a d3d thing it would fail when I switch them in game. I may try a different ver of MAME and see if it's just a proablem with this build.

**Adultery** · December 10, 2011

Well the only thing I see being an issue is it can't initialize your display properly. Can you run it on default and put up the log so I can do a quick comparison?

**deadboy** · December 11, 2011

default as in no command changes?

#
# CORE CONFIGURATION OPTIONS
#
readconfig 1
writeconfig 0
#
# CORE SEARCH PATH OPTIONS
#
rompath roms
hashpath hash
samplepath samples
artpath artwork
ctrlrpath ctrlr
inipath .;ini
fontpath .
cheatpath cheat
crosshairpath crosshair
#
# CORE OUTPUT DIRECTORY OPTIONS
#
cfg_directory cfg
nvram_directory nvram
memcard_directory memcard
input_directory inp
state_directory sta
snapshot_directory snap
diff_directory diff
comment_directory comments
#
# CORE STATE/PLAYBACK OPTIONS
#
state
autosave 0
playback
record
mngwrite
aviwrite
wavwrite
snapname %g/%i
snapsize auto
snapview internal
burnin 0
#
# CORE PERFORMANCE OPTIONS
#
autoframeskip 0
frameskip 0
seconds_to_run 0
throttle 1
sleep 1
speed 1.0
refreshspeed 0
#
# CORE ROTATION OPTIONS
#
rotate 1
ror 0
rol 0
autoror 0
autorol 0
flipx 0
flipy 0
#
# CORE ARTWORK OPTIONS
#
artwork_crop 0
use_backdrops 1
use_overlays 1
use_bezels 1
use_cpanels 1
use_marquees 1
#
# CORE SCREEN OPTIONS
#
brightness 1.0
contrast 1.0
gamma 1.0
pause_brightness 0.65
effect none
#
# CORE VECTOR OPTIONS
#
antialias 1
beam 1.0
flicker 0
#
# CORE SOUND OPTIONS
#
sound 1
samplerate 48000
samples 1
volume 0
#
# CORE INPUT OPTIONS
#
coin_lockout 1
ctrlr
mouse 0
joystick 1
lightgun 0
multikeyboard 0
multimouse 0
steadykey 0
offscreen_reload 0
joystick_map auto
joystick_deadzone 0.3
joystick_saturation 0.85
natural 0
joystick_contradictory 0
coin_impulse 0
#
# CORE INPUT AUTOMATIC ENABLE OPTIONS
#
paddle_device keyboard
adstick_device keyboard
pedal_device keyboard
dial_device keyboard
trackball_device keyboard
lightgun_device keyboard
positional_device keyboard
mouse_device mouse
#
# CORE DEBUGGING OPTIONS
#
log 0
verbose 0
update_in_pause 0
debug 0
debugscript
debug_internal 0
#
# CORE MISC OPTIONS
#
bios
cheat 0
skip_gameinfo 0
uifont default
ramsize
confirm_quit 0
#
# WINDOWS DEBUGGING OPTIONS
#
oslog 0
watchdog 0
debugger_font "Lucida Console"
debugger_font_size 9
#
# WINDOWS PERFORMANCE OPTIONS
#
priority 0
multithreading 0
numprocessors auto
profile 0
bench 0
#
# WINDOWS VIDEO OPTIONS
#
video d3d
numscreens 1
window 0
maximize 1
keepaspect 1
prescale 1
waitvsync 0
syncrefresh 0
menu 0
#
# DIRECTDRAW-SPECIFIC OPTIONS
#
hwstretch 1
#
# DIRECT3D-SPECIFIC OPTIONS
#
d3dversion 9
filter 1
#
# DIRECT3D POST-PROCESSING OPTIONS
#
hlsl_enable 0
hlslpath hlsl
hlsl_ini_read 0
hlsl_ini_write 0
hlslini %g
hlsl_prescale_x 0
hlsl_prescale_y 0
hlsl_preset -1
hlsl_write
hlsl_snap_width 2048
hlsl_snap_height 1536
shadow_mask_alpha 0.0
shadow_mask_texture aperture.png
shadow_mask_x_count 320
shadow_mask_y_count 240
shadow_mask_usize 0.09375
shadow_mask_vsize 0.109375
curvature 0.0
pincushion 0.0
scanline_alpha 0.0
scanline_size 1.0
scanline_height 0.7
scanline_bright_scale 1.0
scanline_bright_offset 0.0
scanline_jitter 0.0
defocus 0.0,0.0
converge_x 0.0,0.0,0.0
converge_y 0.0,0.0,0.0
radial_converge_x 0.0,0.0,0.0
radial_converge_y 0.0,0.0,0.0
red_ratio 1.0,0.0,0.0
grn_ratio 0.0,1.0,0.0
blu_ratio 0.0,0.0,1.0
saturation 1.0
offset 0.0,0.0,0.0
scale 1.0,1.0,1.0
power 1.0,1.0,1.0
floor 0.0,0.0,0.0
phosphor_life 0.0,0.0,0.0
yiq_enable 0
yiq_cc 3.59754545
yiq_a 0.5
yiq_b 0.5
yiq_o 0.0
yiq_p 1.0
yiq_n 1.0
yiq_y 6.0
yiq_i 1.2
yiq_q 0.6
yiq_scan_time 52.6
yiq_phase_count 2
#
# PER-WINDOW VIDEO OPTIONS
#
screen auto
aspect auto
resolution auto
view auto
screen0 auto
aspect0 auto
resolution0 auto
view0 auto
screen1 auto
aspect1 auto
resolution1 auto
view1 auto
screen2 auto
aspect2 auto
resolution2 auto
view2 auto
screen3 auto
aspect3 auto
resolution3 auto
view3 auto
#
# FULL SCREEN OPTIONS
#
triplebuffer 0
switchres 0
full_screen_brightness 1.0
full_screen_contrast 1.0
full_screen_gamma 1.0
#
# WINDOWS SOUND OPTIONS
#
audio_latency 2
#
# INPUT DEVICE OPTIONS
#
hide_cursor 1
dual_lightgun 0

The time stamp on the file doesnt reflect a change when I flip the displays but if I DONT flip them it has no prob with the -numscreens 2 switch.

Very odd...

**Adultery** · December 11, 2011

So it's only games you had to change what displays on what monitor games, not all games? Like the -numscreens switch is crashing it only on games that use a single monitor, or like if you manually reassign a monitor? Sorry, I get lost easy.

**deadboy** · December 11, 2011

No worries. The only time it crashes is on games with multiple screens AFTER I've already successfully loaded them and switched the displays. The numscreens 2 itself doesnt kill it. If I leave the displays where the want to be (backards) then it never crashes. It's only after I tell screen 1 to display the video for screen 0 and vice versa. Even then it works fine till I shut down the game. Then the next time it crashes on load.

**Adultery** · December 13, 2011

Could you please try the latest version of the plugin and see if it fixes the problem? I rewrote the function that calls the command line.

There was a whitespace bug I fixed. If it doesn't run the log in the MameCommander folder will show me what its running.

**deadboy** · December 14, 2011

Right now the system is down because I'm replacing the control panel with a new 4 player box. HOPEFULLY I'll have it up and running again in the next couple days.

Did I make it clear that it's not your app? It does the same thing from a DOS prompt. I mean I REALLY appreciate the help, I just don't want you pulling out your hair thinking it's your plug-in messing up.

**Adultery** · December 14, 2011

You did but if I had extra blanks in the command line it would certainly cause a bug in GameEx (I'm kinda surprised no one noticed it actually). Tha at least will keep MC from fubaring your MAME integration.

**deadboy** · December 19, 2011

OK, my machine is back up and running and on a lark I opted to switch the inputs for the monitors, just to see if that did anything. It did. Now I can't load ANY game with the -numscreens 2 option. Even with a freshly made -cc mame.ini it crashes right off the bat. I'm now wondering if it's something it doesn't like with the particular monitor driver...

**deadboy** · December 19, 2011

Out of curiousity, is this correct syntax for specifying which display screen1 and screen2 go to?

#
# PER-WINDOW VIDEO OPTIONS
#
screen auto
aspect auto
resolution auto
view auto
screen0
aspect0 auto
resolution0 auto
view0 auto
screen1 //.DISPLAY1
aspect1 auto
resolution1 auto
view1 auto
screen2 //.DISPLAY0
aspect2 auto
resolution2 auto
view2 auto
screen3 auto
aspect3 auto
resolution3 auto
view3 auto

**Adultery** · December 19, 2011

Um... shouldn't that be DISPLAY1 & DISPLAY2? Windows monitor enumeration typically starts at 1 not 0. Is this what happens when you assign specific monitors in the tab menu?

**deadboy** · December 19, 2011

Is it? I am trying to piece this stuff together from tidbits I find here and there. I'm a far better wirer and woodworker than I am coder so this is all kind of trial and error for me.

so rather than //.DISPLAY0 it would just be DISPLAY1 and //.DISPLAY1 would be DISPLAY2?

**Adultery** · December 19, 2011

Yeah I would try that first. If you want to see your display names you can also run mame.exe -verbose but unless you changed them yourself it's typically \.\\DISPLAY1 and \.\\DISPLAY2

In games that I run two screens and want to flip the images (like PunchOut), I add this to the command line:

-numscreens 2 -screen0 \.\\DISPLAY.1 -screen1 \.\\DISPLAY2

If you output to \.\\DISPLAY0 my guess is that MAME can't find/initialize that display.

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