here is my config i did turn group 1 enabled and this now has games in my main menu i then had to put 12 in the emulators line for the mame games to show but they still dont work [Emulator_12] Enabled=True STARTPAGENAME=Mame TITLETEXT=Mame StartPageLogo= ROMFilter= RomPath=c:\emulators\mame32\roms RomsInFolders= SnapPath= TitlePath= BoxPath= CartPath= ManualPath= ControlPanelPath= InstructionsPath= WorkingPath=c:\emulators\mame32 MapKeys= WaitBeforeKeys= SendKeys= ReplaceDash= ReplaceUnder= Capitals= RemoveBrackets= ShowDesktop= Debug= MAPFile= AlsoLaunch= Command=mame.exe [ROM] -rompath "[ROMPATH]" LaunchBefore= LaunchAfter= configFile= ExcludedFiles= CustomBackground= PlayMusic= DontShowInfo= PlaySelectionMusic= SelectionMusicFolder= PCGame= DATABASE= UseDbName= GamesIn7Zips= MergeSets= PlayInScreenSaver= ShowMostPlayed= RandomMostPlayed= CDCheck= CDCheckFile= CustomArtName1= CustomArtPath1= CustomArtName2= CustomArtPath2= CustomArtName3= CustomArtPath3= [GENERAL] DumbyValue= ok just a quick update i tried stella with a quick game and it works although i cant figure game out stella seems to work through game ex i will now try other emulators seems to be getting messy though now once i get it all working should be easy enough to wipe it all and start again right ??