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Could you guide me thru replacing my MAME with the newest version and just then maybe copy all my ROMs to a "old" folder and start again and see if it still occurs?

I tried 18.85 and it crashed in about 5 minutes. Log file is attached. log.txt

I truly appreciate your support. The changes that we have made have improved the stability 90%. In my further testing I have discovered something I wanted to share as it might help you with issues like mine in the future. I think the few instances I am seeing now could be related to specific ROMs. The program rotates thru random games in attract mode, and if it doesn't land on one of the problem ROMs in this random rotation it wont crash. If it does land on one of the problem ROMs it will crash. When it crashes its stuck on the screen showing the game in question, and I have seen it stuck on the same game multiple times. P47 Phantom Fighter will cause the crash every time the program lands on it during attract mode. My ROMs have been collected and added to for years, maybe I have some old ROMs that are not compatible any more? I hope this information may shed some more light on this issue for future troubleshooting. Thank you

In trying to troubleshoot this myself I see in the error log several references to dotnet. My system does not have dotnet installed, if this is of any help.

Error is still occurring, I have captured the "pop up" error text and will post it here along with the log. It has improved greatly it was occuring several times per day, now only occurs every 36-48 hours. Error from popup : See the end of this message for details on invoking just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box. ************** Exception Text ************** SharpDX.SharpDXException: HRESULT: [0x8876086C], Module: [Unknown], ApiCode: [Unknown/Unknown], Message: Unknown at SharpDX.Result.CheckError() at SharpDX.Direct3D9.Direct3D.a(Int32 A_0, DeviceType A_1, IntPtr A_2, CreateFlags A_3, PresentParameters[] A_4, Device A_5) at SharpDX.Direct3D9.Device..ctor(Direct3D direct3D, Int32 adapter, DeviceType deviceType, IntPtr hFocusWindow, CreateFlags behaviorFlags, PresentParameters[] presentationParametersRef) at Direct2d.Device.NewDevice(Form FormHandle, Int32 Width, Int32 Height, Boolean Windowed, Boolean VSync, Boolean Display16Bit, Int32 DisplayNbr, Int32 RefreshRate, Direct3D _Direct3d, IntPtr ExistingDevice) at Direct2d.Device.NewDevice(Form FormHandle, Int32 Width, Int32 Height, Boolean Windowed, Boolean VSync, Boolean Display16Bit, Int32 DisplayNbr, Int32 RefreshRate, Direct3D _Direct3d) at Direct2d.Device.NewDevice(Form FormHandle, Int32 Width, Int32 Height, Boolean Windowed, Boolean VSync, Boolean Display16Bit, Int32 DisplayNbr, Int32 RefreshRate) at Direct2d.Device.a(Form& A_0, Int32 A_1, Int32 A_2, Boolean A_3, Boolean A_4, Boolean A_5, Boolean A_6, Int32 A_7) at Direct2d.Device..ctor(Form FormHandle, Int32 Width, Int32 Height, Boolean Windowed, Boolean VSync, Boolean Display16Bit, Boolean SecondaryDisplay) at GameEx.MainForm.a(Boolean A_0, Boolean A_1, Boolean A_2, Boolean A_3, Int32 A_4, Int32 A_5, Int32 A_6, Boolean A_7, Boolean A_8, Boolean A_9) at GameEx.MainForm.a(Boolean A_0, Boolean A_1, Boolean A_2, Boolean A_3, Int32 A_4, Int32 A_5, Int32 A_6, Boolean A_7) at GameEx.MainForm.a(Boolean A_0, Boolean A_1, Boolean A_2, Boolean A_3, Int32 A_4, Int32 A_5, Int32 A_6) at GameEx.MainForm.a(Boolean A_0, Boolean A_1, Boolean A_2, Boolean A_3, Int32 A_4) at GameEx.MainForm.a(Boolean A_0, Boolean A_1, Boolean A_2, Boolean A_3, Int32 A_4, Int32 A_5, Int32 A_6, Boolean A_7, Boolean A_8, Boolean A_9) at GameEx.MainForm.a(Boolean A_0, Boolean A_1, Boolean A_2, Boolean A_3, Int32 A_4, Int32 A_5, Int32 A_6, Boolean A_7) at GameEx.MainForm.a(Boolean A_0, Boolean A_1, Boolean A_2, Boolean A_3, Int32 A_4, Int32 A_5, Int32 A_6) at GameEx.MainForm.b(Boolean A_0, Boolean A_1, Boolean A_2, Boolean A_3) at GameEx.MainForm.f(Boolean A_0, Boolean A_1) at GameEx.MainForm.s(Boolean A_0) at GameEx.MainForm.ck() at GameEx.MainForm.d(Object A_0, EventArgs A_1) at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(HWND hWnd, MessageId msg, WPARAM wparam, LPARAM lparam) ************** Loaded Assemblies ************** System.Private.CoreLib Assembly Version: 8.0.0.0 Location: C:\Program Files\dotnet\shared\Microsoft.NETCore.App\8.0.7\System.Private.CoreLib.dll ---------------------------------------- GameEx Assembly Version: 1.0.0.0 Location: E:\GameEx Arcade Edition\GameEx.dll ---------------------------------------- System.Windows.Forms Assembly Version: 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************** JIT Debugging ************** log.txt

I have had only 1 instance of the crash in the last 3 days after the latest change. It is definitely improved. I am not sure, I will test more to confirm, but I think it hasn't crashed when I run the program as administrator. I will continue and report back. GameEx.ini log.txt

I changed this setting to No, under marquee display. I do not see that setting in GameExtender. I will retest and report back.

Same error after setting "display on secondary" to NO. Logs attached. log.txt GameEx.ini

I have turned "display on secondary" to NO, everything else was same as your example. I will test again and report back. Thank you.

GameEx.inilog.txt My game extender (enable) settings were set to no already and there was nothing in the plugins area. I have included the recent log. In testing I have thought of something. The crash happens in "attract" mode, when the software is displaying random games and gameplay. The image on the screen is not the same when it happens, so I don't think its because of a "bad" ROM file, which was my initial thought. This may be nothing, but just thought I would share.

The update of GPU drivers did not resolve the issue. I will make the Gamextender changes and test again. Thank you

I do not recall my last version, it was last updated probably a year ago. My GPU is an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 and it was not on the most current (October 22nd) driver, I updated it this morning. I will restart and test again, I will need details on how to disable gameextender and plugins please. Thank you

GameEx.inilog.txtGameEx crash log.docx I have attached the .ini and log, also a document showing the output that was left on the screen when it occurred today. I was not sure if this was in the log. Thank you John

I recently installed the latest version of GameEX Arcade and have started getting this error. It causes the screen to freeze and I am not able to access anything. I had a similar issue a few years ago and it was a DirectX issue. (resolved by a reinstall of DirectX) I think this may be similar. Program starts fine, operates fine. At a random time 2-10 minutes it throws this error and locks up. Only windows key seems to work when this happens, mouse pointer is missing. Any suggestions would be appreciated. If you need any log or other files please let me know. Thank you John

Last night I reinstalled .net using the method in this video Then I ran the program all night and the error never recurred. I believe it was a .net issue all along. Thank you for the support and for the great product. Please mark this issue resolved.