Well while we're talking about it - I am doing some more complex stuff than just executing a program. I have a section that takes, for example, file file1.mgp moves to file2.mpg, file2 -> file3, etc. Its a loop Im running with an If command in the batch. After it cycles down to 0 it then starts the recording service. If I need to do a "START" in the batch that could get funky. I was thinking of writing another batch file to call the first. Batch one = dostuff.bat, for example. Then batch2.bat contains "start batch1.bat". Could that work??? Im sure I can make it work with a start in the original before each thing, but honestly this would be simpler. -GP PS - Not vista, XP, but thanks for the tip. Others who stumble on this thread may need that.