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I don't know how that stuff works. Do Game Manager and the Database use the same file? Anyway as you say, it's kinda solved for me. I don't need to use Game Manager if Database works. And PinballX itself is now taking screenshots as intended.

OK tried with Game Manager again. I definitely am saving the xml after checking "hide backglass" (at least I'm saying yes to the prompt). And when I launch PinballX and go to record a backglass I get nothing. Doesn't save anything. However, I can do exactly the same with the Database, and then when I launch PinballX I *can* save backglass images. So something is amiss with the Game Manager.

UPDATE: Just before leaving for work I tried PinballX database, as per scutters suggestion. That was correctly identifying present and missing media (as was Game Manager to be fair). In database there is a box to "hide backglass in game" which I checked. I saved the database when prompted and closed program. Restarted PinballX and tried to take a screenshot of a backglass with a set .res that PinballX would stretch out to full screen if saved thru B2s server. But this time Bingo! It took the screenshot with no issues. I will try more tonight as I have a few to do. But seems like the hide backglass buttons are having a differeing effect between programs? Or maybe a glitch somewhere ironed out when the database saved?

Just tried again. Renamed "Screen Grabs Backglass" folder and also "Backglass Images folder". Then remade namesake empty folders. Went into Game Manager and ticked one table to Hide Backglass (all others are unchecked). Started PinballX and tried 2 tables, (hidden backglass one and another), pressing 'S' for screenshot and when I exited back to PinballX still no backglass images. Nothing in the new folders either.

When I get home I will temporarily rename those folders and make new empty ones. See if it makes a difference. I will try anything now. When you say backglass media should be hidden in PinballX.... only way I'm doing it is to check the box of individial tables in the game manager. Is there a way to do this globally for all? In settings perhaps? As an aside, I'm not that bothered if it's PinballX that takes the screenshot. If I could use a 3rd party tool to take them then move them into PinballX, that would be fine. Tried that with b2s direct, but it didn't work out. But I don't want be involved in editing/cropping stuff in Paint or whatever. Too much hassle.

I will check the S key, but I doubt t it is that. I do get playfield images recorded, it's just backglass that doesn't. EDIT: Can confirm the S key is not configured anywhere in VPX. Yes, I only use backglass and playfield in PinballX. I do have a 3rd screen for dmd/pup packs, but I couldn't get PinballX to snapshot those properly. It's a mini 1080p and many dmds use an overlay to make up full screen. But PinballX would only snap the dmd portion and then stretch it to full 1080p. That's a separate issue I never got solved, so just decided to disable 3rd screen in front end. But I really do want to record backglass ofc. EDIT 2: Only other things I can think of is if the path for savin backglass images has changed somehow? Or the monitor ID no. have changed. But PinballX is displaying everything perfectly for tables with full media.

OK I had another go just now. Still cannot get it to work. Tried with that Hide Backglass box checked and unchecked. I tried to attack from another direction. I loaded tables directly into VPX with Full Screen Exclusive off so I could use the mouse. Then I clicked on the backglass which kind of paused it, then pressing "I" key I got a screenshot saved in the designated folder (makes a snazzy camera sound when you do this). But the trouble is PinballX then stretched these images to the full size of my 1600x1200 monitor. I use .res files in the tables folder to set the backglass size. This over-rides screenres.txt. I don't rely on the "one size fits all" in screenres.txt. A lot of backglass images look pants if you do this, especially 60s / 70s back boxes that are taller than they are wide. B2Sserver is recording screenshots without any black bars. So this is why PinballX then stretches them to 1600x1200. I really need to get PinballX to take the screenshot as is. It worked before so I cannot understand what has changed.

OK will try again later. I thought "hide backglass" was to not show the bg in PinballX. All the 300 tables in Game Manager have this unticked. And tables without bg screenshots in the list do correctly state backglass as "missing media" on the right hand side. I was checking the folders for existing files. Looked in both backglass and screen grabs folders in the Visual Pinball part of PinballX.

I'm wondering if the location of b2s folder has anything to do with this? I'm at work now so can't check till later. But the authors moved the b2s files from Tables folder to its own directory. Only screenres.txt stays in Tables folder now I believe. I wonder if something moved on a VPX update. If I can record screenshots directly through b2s, and then move them into PinballX that will be fine.

I tried deleting the table image to see if it would do both at once. No dice. Only the table image was recorded. In PinballX general settings there is an option at the bottom for using Playfield images or loading folders. What is the difference? I had it set to images but switched to folders. Nothing seems to change. And still can't record a backglass pic. 😵 EDIT: I wondered if there may be a file limit for the folder? I had 335 images stored in there so removed some to test. Not that either.

Hi guys I posted about this back in September 2022, but that thread is now locked. I sort of resolved my issue back then by going into Game Manager and checking "Hide Backglass", then I was able to take a shot using the S key, and then going back to GM and unchecking same box. However, I've taken a break from VPX for a while (new job) and just decided to come back to my cab today. I upgraded PinballX to the latest version, and knew I had a few screenshots I needed to catch up on from months ago. Now table screenshots work fine. No issues there. But I cannot get a backglass image to save at all. I believe pressing S does both, yes? I've tried checking and unchecking the Hide Backglass box in Game Manager. Nothing happens. I get the PinballX video which appears when no backglass image is available to load. But no matter what I do I can't save an image when backglass does load. Files attached from my efforts today. log.txt PinballX.ini

Posted this earlier in general forum, but was advised this is the best place by Mike... I like the additional info box where I can show manufacturer logos, dates and my ratings. But can it be moved from the playfield screen to my third monitor? I like the recent option to change the wheel to be flat, which shows more of the playfield. But the additional info box also covers the top third of the playfield. My 3rd monitor is currently not used in my frontend and that would pretty cool I think. I can't make my mind up whether to use the Statistics plugin to show trivia from IPDB on the 3rd monitor, or go like this if it can be done. First option would be a lot of work though getting the info into the xml file. :p

Yeah I've had a go at that. I'd want it to look nice though with different lines in different size fonts and some different colour text here and there. At the moment it's all one size and one colour. But it's getting there and I appreciate the efforts from you guys. My cab is never connected to the internet, so I can't download stuff direct. The data I'd use would be stuff like production numbers and related trivia. Some tables don't have much info but there's some really interesting stuff on many of them. It doesn't need to be there all the time either. Could be something that pops up if a pre-set button is pressed, such as extra-ball button.

I just started using DBM yesterday and I already prefer it over Game Manager. So yeah I'll look into that.

I like the additional info box where I can show manufacturer logos, dates and my ratings. But can it be moved from the playfield screen to my third monitor? I like the recent option to change the wheel to be flat, which shows more of the playfield. But the additional info box also covers the top third of the playfield. My 3rd monitor is currently not used in my frontend and that would pretty cool I think. I can't make my mind up whether to use the Statistics plugin to show trivia from IPDB on the 3rd monitor, or go like this if it can be done. First option would be a lot of work though getting the info into the xml file. :p

Thanks for the offer to help Scutters. But I've figured it out... me being a n00b. I wasn't adding comments properly. I was ending the line with <comment/> instead of </comment>. Sorry about that.

Re-visited this today. Using up to date PinballX and plugin. Comments still are not displaying at all. Made sure not to use GameManager (as that deletes the comments on the XML file). I only have Game Name and Comments ticked. Game name shows on my 3rd screen but no comments. It does display in correct font/colour. Comments are there within the XML file in the same format as Game name.

I think I've discovered the issue. I have to hide the backglass first before I can take the screenshot. I like to have backglasses visible along with the table image while a table is loading so when they do load they just "pop to life" as it were. But when updating screenshots I need to hide them or else the "S" button has no effect.

Just updated to 5.54 and it's still doing the same. Attached are the PinballX.ini and log files. log.txt PinballX.ini

Just updated a few backglasses that Wildman has created. Deleted the old images from my backglass folder in media section for vpinball (where all my backglass images are stored). This means I now get the PinballX animated default for no image being present. Table images load up fine. But when I press "S" for screengrabs the backglass isn't saving. I have force exclusive off in VPX. If I delete the table image from its respective folder and reload the table through PinballX then pressing "S" does record the playfield, but not the backglass. I'm on PinballX version 5.43

Well I bought the monitor today. They had an open box bargain so snapped it up while I could. Yes... PinballX is now running at 120fps same as my refresh rate. I was at fixed 60Hz before. The wheels movement is much, much smoother at 120Hz. Not of major importance of course, but quite nice to have.

I dunno... thought the wheel might look a bit smoother at 120Hz. I take the point about videos, but I use static screenshots only. It's not a big deal. So it's fixed at 60? Just thought I'd ask.

Thinking of getting a 120+ Hz monitor for my cab. So to see how my setup performs I turned vsync off and used Fraps to see what FPS I'd be getting in the most demanding tables. The good news for me is I seem to be able to get 120+ just about on all apart from maybe a couple. But I noticed that PinballX was stuck at 60Hz. Can this be changed? Or will it change automatically if I get a 120Hz monitor and set that as a fixed refresh rate? Sorry if this seems a n00b question

Hi Mike, and thanks for your help. I already had Force exlusice Full screen on in VPX, but I didn't have Full Screen Exclusive Hack on in PinballX. Not sure what that does exactly. It didn't make any difference and with that on some tables (notably the latest VPW version of Tron Legacy) will not load causing PinballX to crash. So I have to have that OFF. It seems updating to the latest version of PinballX has done the trick and now ACDC loads fine. But it did before and I have no Win10 updates going on my cab at all, so dunno what happened there. Thank you anyway for your help

I have this issue with seemingly one table in my collection of 299. It's ACDC (Stern 2012). Whenever I go to load this table the screenshot shows fine for about 12 seconds, then screenshot disappears and the VPX loading screen appears as it's not finished and the table starts about 3 or four seconds later. I have "Extra wait for show desktop" currently set to 25 seconds (tried 30 as well which is max) to try and get round this but it seems to be ignored. I have loading VPX loading set to minimized which causes a black screen for 3 or 4 seconds which is as bad really. Can't help feeling t must be something with that particular table as there are more demanding ones than that which load fine. log.txt PinballX.ini Visual Pinball.xml