ok i've tried every damn driver on this old machine (that btw used to run GameEx fine) Can someone tell me whats up? vid card is old (ONBOARD RIVIA TNT2 model 64) here's my error 00:37:52.3 4/21/2011: Error: Error in the application. 00:37:52.3 4/21/2011: at Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3D.Texture..ctor(Device device, Int32 width, Int32 height, Int32 numLevels, Usage usage, Format format, Pool pool) 00:37:52.3 4/21/2011: at x.c() 00:37:52.3 4/21/2011: at x.a(Bitmap& A_0, Device& A_1) 00:37:52.3 4/21/2011: at x..ctor(Bitmap A_0, l A_1, o A_2) 00:37:52.3 4/21/2011: at ag.a(x& A_0, String A_1, l A_2, Boolean A_3, Boolean A_4, Int32 A_5) 00:37:52.3 4/21/2011: at ag.a(Boolean A_0, Boolean A_1, Boolean A_2, Boolean A_3, Int32 A_4) 00:37:52.3 4/21/2011: at ag.b(Boolean A_0, Boolean A_1, Boolean A_2) 00:37:52.3 4/21/2011: at ag.a(Boolean A_0, String A_1, Boolean A_2) 00:37:52.3 4/21/2011: at ag..ctor() 00:37:52.3 4/21/2011: Closing database connection 00:37:52.4 4/21/2011: Disposing Plugins 00:37:52.4 4/21/2011: GameEx is exiting with errors 00:37:54.7 4/21/2011: ERRORS DETECTED: EXITING is there an old copy of gameex i can run to make this happen? I'm only running mame 86 on it!