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I delivered as much information as I could. My first post in this topic is from February 2014. I tried EVERYTHING excluding full system re-installation (I am not gonna do this). I tried to unplug other devices. I tried different keyboards (x-box controller works fine under pinballX; but I need keyboard). In past year I installed pinballx few times hoping it finally start working for me. How I mentioned this fronted is the only one from 400+ programs that does not work correctly. Hyperspin, Hyperpin, Mala and few other frontends works with no problem. I am also not only one with this problem. I understand this issue is not common. I really wanted to try pinballX - but I guess it's just not for me. There is nothing more I can do on my end to check more things or provide more information. I can only hope that someday devs figure this out and fix. Sorry, being rude was not my intention. I am just kind of disappointed I still can't run it and give it a try. Guess I stucked with Hyperpin.

@ Draco 1962: I instaled LAV codecs. It didn't help. I am not surprised. I don't have any problem with media files, videos and sounds are displplayed/played correctly under frontend. Keyboard is not responding. Please explain me what audio or video codecs can have to do with non working keyboard imput? Anyway, I installed LAV and there is no difference, still nothing. log file: PinballX Support File Data 00:09:48.5 2015-12-23: PinballX - Version 2.1 00:09:48.6 2015-12-23: Windows 7 Ultimate Service Pack 1 64-bit (15,94921875GB) 00:09:48.6 2015-12-23: Loading Settings 00:09:48.6 2015-12-23: Initialize Component 00:09:48.6 2015-12-23: Initialize Display 00:09:49.8 2015-12-23: Loading PlugIns 00:09:50.0 2015-12-23: Created DirectX BackGlass Window 00:09:50.1 2015-12-23: Hiding Cursor 00:09:50.1 2015-12-23: Hiding Taskbar 00:09:50.2 2015-12-23: CPU: Intel® Core i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz 00:09:50.2 2015-12-23: GPU 1: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770 00:09:50.2 2015-12-23: Displays: 2 00:09:50.2 2015-12-23: Load Game List 00:09:50.2 2015-12-23: Loading Database: Future Pinball 00:09:50.2 2015-12-23: Loading Database: Visual Pinball 00:09:50.2 2015-12-23: Finding and matching artwork and videos 00:09:50.2 2015-12-23: Loading Game Statistics and Scores 00:09:51.3 2015-12-23: Loading Surfaces 00:09:51.4 2015-12-23: Finished Loading Surfaces 00:09:51.4 2015-12-23: Initialize Audio 00:09:51.5 2015-12-23: Set Keyboard Controls 00:09:51.5 2015-12-23: Initialize Joystick 00:09:51.5 2015-12-23: No Joysticks Attached 00:09:51.5 2015-12-23: Started 00:10:13.1 2015-12-23: Created DirectX BackGlass Window 00:10:17.9 2015-12-23: Created DirectX BackGlass Window 00:10:26.4 2015-12-23: Created DirectX BackGlass Window 00:10:42.1 2015-12-23: Exiting 00:10:42.1 2015-12-23: Showing Taskbar 00:10:42.1 2015-12-23: Unhiding Mouse Cursor 00:10:42.1 2015-12-23: Disposing Plugins 00:10:42.1 2015-12-23: Saving Settings 00:10:42.1 2015-12-23: Bye ini file (I didn't do any configuration, just wanted to check keyboard response with included example media files): PinballX Support File Data [Display] Monitor=0 rotate=270 Windowed=False WindowWidth=480 WindowHeight=720 WindowX=0 WindowY=65 PlayFieldBrightness=230 WheelTextColor=ffffffff WheelTextOutlineColor=ff000000 InfoTextColor=ffffffff InfoTextOutlineColor=ff000000 FilterTextColor=ffffffff FilterTextOutlineColor=ff000000 MenuColor=ffffa500 [backGlass] monitor=1 x=0 y=0 width=1280 height=1024 [DMD] Enabled=False monitor=2 x=0 y=0 width=900 height=300 [FileSystem] EnableFileMatching=True [interface] DesktopModeEnabled=False EnableAdditionalDetail=True ShowSystem=True ShowRatings=True [Audio] StreamVolume=90 SampleVolume=90 PlaySoundInVideos=True [startup] playsound=True playvideo=False StartWithWindows=No [KeyCodes] quit=27 left=160 right=161 select=13 rotate=82 pageleft=33 pageright=34 exitemulator=27 ingame=80 screenshot=83 screenshotbackglass=66 instructions=73 volumedown=109 volumeup=107 [JoyCodes] quit=10 left=1 right=0 select=2 rotate=3 pageleft=4 pageright=5 exitemulator=6 ingame=13 instructions=14 [Text] Line1=Free Play Line2=Press Start Featuring=Featuring Tables=Tables PlayGame=Play Game Instructions=Instructions Information=Information Flyer=Flyer Gameplay=Gameplay Tutorial=Tutorial ExitGame=Exit Game ReturnToGame=Return to Game Return=Return Exit=Exit Shutdown=Shutdown [FuturePinball] Enabled=True WorkingPath=h:\-PINBALL-\-FUTURE PINBALL- TablePath=h:\-PINBALL-\-FUTURE PINBALL-\Tables Executable=Future Pinball.exe Parameters=/open "[TABLEPATH]\[TABLEFILE]" /play /exit /arcaderender LaunchBeforeEnabled=false LaunchBeforeWorkingPath= LaunchBeforeExecutable=notepad.exe LaunchBeforeHideWindow=False LaunchBeforeWaitForExit=True LaunchAfterEnabled=False LaunchAfterWorkingPath= LaunchAfterExecutable=notepad.exe LaunchAfterHideWindow=False LaunchAfterWaitForExit=True MouseClickFocus=True [VisualPinball] Enabled=True WorkingPath=h:\-PINBALL-\- VISUAL PINBALL - TablePath=h:\-PINBALL-\- VISUAL PINBALL -\Tables Executable=VPinball_9_0_2.exe Parameters=/play -"[TABLEPATH]\[TABLEFILE]" LaunchBeforeEnabled=false LaunchBeforeWorkingPath= LaunchBeforeExecutable=notepad.exe LaunchBeforeHideWindow=False LaunchBeforeWaitForExit=True LaunchAfterEnabled=False LaunchAfterWorkingPath= LaunchAfterExecutable=notepad.exe LaunchAfterHideWindow=False LaunchAfterWaitForExit=True [ExitScreen] Enabled=True EnableExit=True EnableShutdown=True [startupProgram] Enabled=false WorkingPath= Executable=notepad.exe Paramaters= HideWindow=true WaitForExit=false [ExitProgram] Enabled=false WorkingPath= Executable=notepad.exe Paramaters= HideWindow=False WaitForExit= [AttractMode] Enabled=True Timer=1 ShowFor=15 MuteAudio=False [system_1] Name=MAME Enabled=False WorkingPath=C:\- EMULATORS -\- MAME - TablePath=C:\ Executable=mamep64.exe Parameters=[TABLEFILE] SystemType=0 [AutoExit] Enabled=False Minutes=10 [Login] Enabled=False [PinballFX2] Enabled=False WorkingPath=C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam Executable=steam.exe Parameters=-applaunch 226980 Process=Pinball FX2.exe Rotate=False WaitFor=20 [internal] lastwheelcachematchsize=-1123 lastselected=Big Game (Stern 1980)16-9 Big GameVisualPinball filter_year= filter_company= filter_custom= filtername=Tables [PinballArcade] WorkingPath=C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam Executable=steam.exe Parameters=-applaunch 238260 Process=PinballArcade.exe [GameListManager] onlinemode=false [setupWizard] EmuPath1=C:\Emulators AssetPath1=C:\Assets RomPath1=C:\Roms DefaultPathPrompt=True DownloadDatabasePrompt=True DownloadEmulatorPrompt=True WizardMode=0 CustomArray= SearchArray= SavePosition=False SectionIndex=21 SearchText= EmulatorIndex=0 EmulatorGroupIndex=0 DaphneIndex=0 HTMLAppsIndex=0 ExternalAppsIndex=0 RadioStationsIndex=0 NewsFeedsIndex=0 MappedDrivesIndex=0 SystemIndex=0 ShowPanel=True FontSize=1 WindowState=0 WindowSize=650,478 WindowLocation=635,271 [General] Language= DxDiag: DxDiag.txt

Just tried latest ver of PinballX and still the same shit - keyboard does not work inside fronted... well, alt+ctrl+del works allowing me to kill app, but input are not recognized by program. I have like 300 steam games installed, few different emulators, office and utility programs... guess I have like 400-450 programs on my computer and this fronted is the only one not working correctly... what leads me to conclusion my system/rig is ok and problem is on frontend side. Any ideas how to fix this?!

Yes, I installed both - 32 "base" and 64 bit "extension". They may not be visable in dxdiag log becouse this instalation did not helped so I uinstalled this shark package (dont want to make my system havier with no need). I am not programmer so I don't know for sure - but it doesn't seems like this problem is anyway related with codecs. As mentioned I have wireless x360 controller. I didn't try to uninstall its driver and would prefer not to - it has no conflict with any other software I use. And its usuallu "unactive" - I turn it on only when playing some games...

I had to install it one more time. This time I installed to default location c:/ and just clicked "next" in setup not bothering to change default keys and paths. Alt+Tab seems to work now... so I can minimalize with Alt+tab - this was not working with 174... nothing else changed - cursor still visable all the time and keybord (excluding alt+tab) does not work log: ini:

PinbalX log is at post #5 - you can take a look but nothing wrong in it. System hardware was also mention before. Don't know if this will help but here is dxdiag log: ------------------ System Information ------------------ ------------ DxDiag Notes ------------ -------------------- DirectX Debug Levels -------------------- --------------- Display Devices --------------- ------------- Sound Devices ------------- --------------------- Sound Capture Devices --------------------- ------------------- DirectInput Devices ------------------- ----------- USB Devices ----------- ---------------- Gameport Devices ---------------- ------------ PS/2 Devices ------------ ------------------------ Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives ------------------------ -------------- System Devices -------------- ------------------ DirectShow Filters ------------------ --------------- EVR Power Information ---------------

PinballX starts with mouse cursor visible... I can run cursor but keybord does not work, clicking mouse does nothing untill I move cursor to 3th monitor (1,& 2 are occupy by PinballX). Clicking mouse on 3th monitor minimize frontend to task bar and I can close it. I have latest version of Flash. I installed this codecs but it changed nothing. Flash.ocx stil has messed owning rights and is undeletable withouth previous manuall ingerention.

Latest info: Just tryed new v1.75 and it's all the same - keyboard is not rsponsive and unistaller is broken - "Flash.ocx" belongs to noone and require manual intervention in owning rights, other way it's undeletable...

I am not frustrated Draco. I think PinballX has some very cool features - like dmd movie - and I wanted to try it. Bit since PinballX does not works on my system and looks like there is nothing I can do to fix this (and believe me I have tryed!)I see no reason to be frustrated or to waste time while other software with the same function works for me just fine. So I simply report to devs: on some systems keyboard does not work and unistaller have some serious issues. I will for sure try PinballX again in future when some newer version will be available. For now enough is enough - I want to play pinball in my free time, not waste time for fighting with pinball frontend... Thanks to everyone who tryed to help.

Last thing: Uninstaller is broken - uninstall proces left PinballX folder with "Flash.ocx" inside. File has broken ownership status/rights and cannot be delated manualy untill you fix this. I am not computer geek so it took me another few minutes to google how to do it... it should not be like this! FIX THIS DEVS!

Mate, I did my best: I switched keyboards, played with my system and frontend setting, tryed to google some solution and tryed every advise ppl gave me here (thank you all). And I tryed to deliver as much information in problem description as I could. I really wanted to try PinballX. But enough is enough. Hyperpin works like a charm! I am not going to waste more time on this, now it's up to devs.

"Do you have an IR receiver attached to the box? I recall a while ago there was an issue w/ a MSFT mouse/keyboard/HID driver being installed that you had to remove and the key control came back. 103 key keyboard? Something like that, affected VP too." - from your link. Thank you for your help Zeenon. Yap,I think it's probably something like this. I have logitech usb beyboard k290, logitech mouse MX518 (both don't require any extra driver) and x-box 360 wierless controller (extra driver installed)... Even If I could I am unwiling to uninstall any of my drivers - maybye it's x-box controller, but I am using it in many games.... I tryed to set x-box controller as joystick and it PARTIALY work - I am abble to start first table, but flippers dont move, I can't turn frontend wheele, etc - I can't play... But start buttton works. Damn strange. I give up, I will stick to hyperpin.Maybye I will try PinballX in few months in other, newer version. Please Devs, sort this out.

Issue with FP is about measurement system - it can be fixed by changing it in system or by modification table script... and if no fixed it results with mess on dmd when displaying score and has nothing to do with non responding keyboard. I am using english Win 7 ultimate 64 bit with system language set to us english and polish programmer keyboard. I tryed to switch keyboard seting anyway but just like I thought it didn't solve the problem. I think problem is somehow connected with this bloody cursor visible all the time.

Win7 64 bit, pretty nice rig with 4core@3.5 and GFX770. My keybord is USB logitech k290. I tryed to switch to old PS2 keyboard - but as I mention that does not change a thing. I did not installed any extra codecs - don't think my system needs it, every video file I have tryed seems to play with no problem. Hyperpin works like a charm. My monitors: Playfield: [1920x1080 iyama] Backglass: [1600x1200 nec] DMD: [1600x1200 iyama] In nvidia panel order is MONITOR2 [1920x1080 iyama] (* main / dvi): MONITOR3 [1600x1200 nec / dvi] MONITOR1: [1600x1200 iyama / hdmi] But as mentioned - everything works nice in Hyperpin. Seems to also work nice in PnballX - graphics or monitor order is not my problem - lack of keyboard response is. Alt+tab do nothing. alt+f4 do nothing ctrl+alt+del brings standar win screen alowing me to start task menager - but right after Ill do it its hidden under PinballX and only possibility to move this damn cursor (visable all the time) and click on this "dmd" screen saves me from hard reset. Cursor is visible all the time. This is killing me...

"07:58:13.5 2014-02-17: Hiding Cursor" - not true. I can see cursor all the time! I am using 3 monitor display prepared to become cabinet. After running PinballX.exe I have 2 monitors "taken" by Frontend (wannnabe-dmd monitor just shows wallpaper) and visible cursor - I can move cursor to 3th monitor and click - this minimalize PinballX to taskbar and I can click on it and choose "close window" - its only thing that saves me from hard reset. "07:58:13.5 2014-02-17: Loading Custom Database: Visual Pinball - Copy" - I deleted this file but it didn't change anythying Forget to mention - keybord is like PinballX-dead. If I pres ctrl+alt+del I can start task menager but right after start its hidden under PinballX frontend so with no 3th monitor and possilility to click on its area to minimalize probably I would have to hard reset my rig. Looks like "focus" is on this damn cursor, and frontend works on "lower layer" or something?!

Did you find problem couse and solution? I have exactly the same problem... keyboard not responding after running pinballx.exe, but all ok when configuring after running settings.exe... I tryed with another, older ps2 keybord - same - keys dont work. In hyperpinh everything works like a charm... in pinballX keybord is dead WTF?!

I have seen someone else reported exacly same problem - but I lost mentioned post and can't find again... When I run settings.exe everythig seems to be fine and I can setup my keyboard - all keys work. When I start PinballX with PinballX.exe keyboard seems to be totaly dead, nothing works This is killing me... help please. Using win7 64bit; usb keyboard logitech k290 [EDIT] Tested with another, ps2 keyboard - nothing change - keybord works in setup but stop responding after running frontend