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I think I do know the answer but I have all my FP tables in one XML and that working wonderful. There are some tables I know I want but they dont exists as Future Pinballs but Visual pinball. I have that working as well but I would love to have one XML file driving every table but I have a feeling there is no way to mix FP and VP tables in the same XML correct? I am going to have to make a seperate XML file for the VP pinballs and place it in the VP database folder and back out to the main menu every time and just live with a "future Pinball list and a Visual pinball list right? Not a huge deal but for simple sake for this PC I am building for my dad, I can see him never figuring out how to back out to the main menu to "see the other tables" He is a bit of a caveman so, the easier I make it the better. Thanks for the assistance in getting bugs ironed out . **EDIT Ok Quite Bizarre. I started constructing the new XML for visual Pinballs XML file and realized my Future Pinball XML was named "Future Pinball ALL.xml" So I just renamed it to "Future Pinball.XML" For giggles I loaded up pinball X to make sure the tables still loaded. Now the filters for 70's 80's etc now all work for some reason. (they did not before). I now see my One VP table (Haunted House) in the wheel with all the Future pinballs. The FP tables all work, and when I pick haunted House it loads with VP! Now sure how or why. Maybe pinballX checks for default named XML files called Visual Pinball.xml and Future Pinball.xml and mashes them together on the same wheel. (thats what I would think would happen.) But since I had a different named XML for my future pinballs it created a new catagory on the menu called "Future Pinballs All" which lead me to believe you needed two files and two menu choices to play different emulated types of tables. When all you need is two xml files and PinballX mashes them together in the same wheel.

I had a hell of a time last night trying every combination I thought of,..renaming bams fploader program, changing pinballx's config files to use a 3rd system, etc. I did so many combinations that I thought I covered them all. I finally nuked the pinballx config file from orbit and started over because I could get PX to load up, I would select a table, it blacks the screen, then bounces back to PX frontend, then seconds later the table would load leaving the front end of pinball x as the focus.. Since it was messing up and using the switch /STAYINRAM my guess is that it was residing in ram, and task manager couldn't kill the process, it would not let me type anything in a browser window, and screwed up my keyboard in windows royally which I am sure is the injection BAM is doing. Anyhow after sleeping on it and trying again today I did the following: 1. Renamed the fploader.exe in the c:\pinball\future pinball\BAM\ folder to Future Pinball.exe 2. I have the Future Pinball config in PinballX pointing to c:\pinball\Future Pinball\BAM\ 3. I have the exe file name in pinballx's config as Future Pinball.exe (the renamed one thats sitting in the BAM folder) 4. the Parameters are Parameters=/STAYINRAM /open "[TABLEPATH]\[TABLEFILE]" /play /exit /arcaderender Low and behold it loads up PX, blacks the screen out after selecting a table, but if you wait a seconds or two it loads it up and focus the table to the forefront window, I can play it and exit out back to PX just fine. I swear I did this Combo last night. and it would never load the bam mod, just default back to the old future pinball.exe. I knew because hitting the Q or ~ key never showed the BAM menu. So in summary I did NOT put bam as a 3rd "system" in the Pinball X config settings. Just changed the path to the exe in the future pinball config, and renamed the bam fploader.exe to the same exe name and added the /STAYINRAM switch on the parameter for future pinball. I hope I did that right. It works, and that's all I care about. I appreciate the assist Z I did also make copies of the physics XML and rename to the table name, they are reading when I load the table and bring up the bam menu, it shows its using the tables XML file. I made a copy of the fp org.xml file and pasted it in the tables folder and renamed it to default.xml. When I load non physics tables and bring up the bam window i do not see saying it is loading the default.XML. I assume it is however using it because the physics are not as bouncy.

Zeenon. I actually took your advice and decided to install BAM. I like the idea of having one Future Pinball.exe. I did notice though that you have a different folder for your installs so it looks as if you actually have a FP BAM folder and a regular FP folder. What I would like to accomplish is this: First My main folder is c:\pinball Inside my Pinball folder is a PinballX Folder and a Future Pinball folder. Inside my Future pinball folder is the BAM folder and I have renamed the fploader.exe in the Bam folder to Futurepinball.exe All My tables are located in the Future pinball\tables folder and they are not in subfolders. I have almost 300+ Regular non physics 2.6 tables and about 30 of Slamtilts physics 2.6 tables all smashed in the same Tables folder of Future Pinball. I have one XML File called "Future Pinball All Tables.XML" that has all 330+ Tables in it. I am trying to make it transparent for me to Load up PinballX, it Loads my XML file that has all my Tables on the wheel, and Off I Go. If I select a Pinball lets say Abra Cadabra Ultimate by Slamtilt I want it to load the Future Pinball.exe in the BAM folder. But if I have a Non Physics Table it loads the standard FP.exe. I want to avoid having to go back a menu and make a seperate BAM.XML on another pinball X Menu and have to bounce between a menu with 300 Non physics tables, then have top back out and load an XML Menu that says perhaps "Future Pinball Physics" tables. Can they all coexists of the one XML menu item? I guess I could make a sub folder in c:\pinball\Future PinballTables and call it "Bam Tables". Move all the Physics tables to that subfolder. Then Configure another system like you did in PinballX for Bam, and point to that c:pinball\\Future Pinball\Tables\Bam Tables" folder? How does PinballX use Other System configs? Does it place another catagory on the main menu? Am I out of luck wanting to use one list for everything? I hope I did not confuse you and that makes sense. I would assume if we add BAM as another system there is no way of avoiding having a BAM catagory on the menu, and a ALL Future Pinballs menu item. Id love to just have it load my 330+ XML file and autoload bam for physics tables and regular FP.exe for regular tables. If you got any Ideas as to how best to do that, I'd love to know. Thanks

I was just going to ask this same question regarding FP and using a FP physics mod for Slams tables. Good info!

Thank you for the Confirmation. I'm running 1920 x 1200 resolution in windows and have Full screen checked in FP and using the same resolution setup in FP. After setting to desktop mode and verifying the pinballx.ini has indeed changed to DesktopModeEnabled=False, It does not display the interface in landscape and I see no changes as in my screenshot. I can get it to go landscape by changing in Graphics Display 1 rotate 90 degrees. It seems redundant that you need to change it to desktop mode off, and then also change display ones settings. I would think a force desktop mode to off would launch it landscape without having to change the rotation setting as well. Just curious. Not sure if that is by design or not? Putting the info in desktop mode as a toggleable option on/off option I think would benefit some as well for those not using this as a pin cabinet front end but just want a slick front end on a desktop machine. Maybe a scale the box down 50% in desktop mode. I am so impressed with this front end that too many times no one says thanks. I encourage everyone that really uses and enjoys this mod to chip in some cash to help support the efffort. I just did and It is well worth it! Thank you for all the hard work. It's getting better all the time!

First off, Wonderful job on this front end. I for now am only using it with Future Pinball. I am running in Desktop mode Single Monitor. (making it for my dad's new PC. He just likes playing tables so theres no need for a second monitor, etc. I have enabled all three show additional info in the PX setup, and verified in the INI file the settings are correct. as seen below. [interface]DesktopModeEnabled=TrueEnableAdditionalDetail=TrueShowSystem=TrueShowRatings=True When looking at my XML for example on my first table in the menu list Everything is filled out correctlyExample: <game name="2001_V200"> <description>2001</description> <manufacturer>Gottlieb</manufacturer> <year>1997</year> <type></type> <rating>4</rating> When the table is selected on the wheel I see the Manufacturer and the Rating if it exists but I do not see the year as show in the Documentation file for pinballX on the Main forum. Has this not been implemented yet? I noticed the screenshot in the documentation shows a partialy opaque window with the table name, Emulator Program, Vendor Name, Rating and Year. I'd love to have this displayed. Anything I should check for? I have attached a screenshot of what I see. Thank you!