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Did a little testing looks like it was the PinballX.exe file that was the culprit. Symptoms recur when it is not run as administrator.

Log file attached log.txt

Thank you Draco I think that was it. Not sure which file but I changed all of the exe files in the Pinball X folder to run as administrator. Steam and FX2 already were. Went in and out of FX2 games several times without issue

tried both no change PinballX.ini log.txt

Restarting an issue thread as I thought the problem was exiting FX2 but it is not. Pinball X is shutting down while in FX2. Fx2 used to work just fine for me, over 1 year ago. (Not with current versions of FX2 or PinballX) So after doing a lot of playing, trying to figure out the log file I see what is happening just don't know why. As requested I did remove any reference to run before or after in FX2 First issue was the XPaddder plugin was not initializing so I switched to using the x360ce emulator which works fine with FX2 running by itself. Still have to map an escape button. No errors showing up there now. However when playing FX2 through pinball X all of the sudden (randomly) the backglass disappears or reverts to one of the VP backglasses. Cycling through my open programs shows that Pinball X has closed. The Log text shows some errors there. Access is denied 11:58:09.5 1/28/2018: at System.Diagnostics.ProcessManager.OpenProcess(Int32 processId, Int32 access, Boolean throwIfExited) 11:58:09.5 1/28/2018: at System.Diagnostics.Process.GetProcessHandle(Int32 access, Boolean throwIfExited) 11:58:09.5 1/28/2018: at System.Diagnostics.Process.get_HasExited() 11:58:09.5 1/28/2018: at PinballX.FrmMain.q() 11:58:10.6 1/28/2018: Main display running full screen windowed. 11:58:10.6 1/28/2018: Error in the application. 11:58:10.6 1/28/2018: Error. Exiting 11:58:10.6 1/28/2018: Error in the application. 11:58:10.6 1/28/2018: at PinballX.FrmMain.a(Boolean A_0, Boolean A_1, Boolean A_2, Boolean A_3, Boolean A_4) 11:58:10.6 1/28/2018: at PinballX.FrmMain.ap() 11:58:10.6 1/28/2018: at PinballX.FrmMain..ctor() I have tried FX2 in full screen windowed and borderless window. Borderless window plays for a couple of seconds and reverts back to the Pinball X game select screen. FX2 still active in the background. Downloaded 2.5 and re installed with no change Any help is appreciated. Stuart log.txt PinballX.ini

Going to start a new thread as the problem is different from what I thought.

Playing some more with this it seems that Pinball X is gone after manually exiting FX2 game. I am left with a back glass window only.

I actually added them to try to get the program to behave. They were not there when everything worked as expected (probably a year ago) . I currently have them inactive. I just updated the 2 files. The bat file was killing FX2. I thought it was to run when quitting the table but no Without xpadder I have no control from my cabinet. Something is wrong with the way I am trying to activate it in the settings. It only works if I start it before starting PinballX. I realized the files I first posted were after changes and I probably was fixing them when you looked at them. Really appreciate your help.

Files attached PinballX.ini log.txt

I have worked through the multiple changes that have been required for FX2 from before it was supported on Pinball X. Some time in the last year something else changed and I could not get it to exit properly, so I simply disabled FX2. At least the family and kids could play on the cabinet without issues. (visual Pinball tables) Getting back to this as I now see DOFlinx makes the "toys" work with FX2 so I wanted to get it running again. When i quit a table from Pinball X it brings me back to the normal FX2 end game screen. Do you want to save your game etc. In the past this did not happen. I do remember initially needing a bat file to kill the process, is that still needed? If so I can't seem to get it set up correctly. Can't find pinball FX2.exe even from a command prompt. I can kill steam but that is not what I want to do I don't believe. Also is a gamepad emulator still needed in cabinet mode? I know it was at one time but I thought it was not recently. All of the FX2 installation instructions seem out of date. Help Thanks, Stuart I have a 3 monitor cabinet running windows 10 I updated PinballX to 2.5 Back in 2015 I wrote a how to on this Forum to install FX2 on an earlier version of Pinball X before 2.0. Took a while but I understood it back then

Can you post a link to that sale? Never mind found it on the Steam FX2 site.

I can't copy and paste in IE so I had to switch browsers. This is my PinballFX2 section in the ini file. KillFX2.bat kills FX2 and Steam as there were some instances where they would not shut down properly and not let a new steam table load. I did not need this for the game to load initially though. [PinballFX2]Enabled=TrueWorkingPath=C:\Program Files (x86)\SteamExecutable=steam.exeParameters=-applaunch 226980Process=Pinball FX2.exeLaunchAfterEnabled=TrueLaunchAfterExecutable=kill FX2.batLaunchAfterWorkingPath=C:\Program Files (x86)\Visual Pinball\ScriptsLaunchBeforeEnabled=TrueLaunchBeforeWorkingPath=C:\Program Files (x86)\Visual Pinball\ScriptsLaunchBeforeExecutable=kill FX2.bat

I am not an expert and just got FX2 to work myself. Steam knows where FX2.exe is otherwise it would not work at all so I doubt it is a file location issue but..... I also assume that you are using 1.97 or 1.98 version of PinballX otherwise it will not work without an outside script. Otherwise it would not work. My pinball.ini file is similar but things are listed in a different order. The one entry I do not have is wait for=15 and I also have entries for launch after enabled and launch before enabled.

Is that your actual FX2 xml file? It should look like the text in section 6.3 of the Pinball X documentation version 1.3. Also in your PinballX.ini the executable under FX2 should be Pinball FX2.exe and not Steam.exe as per the manual section 4.3.12 I am not at home to confirm that my actual game is setup this way.

After playing the machine for a few days I have found some issues with running FX2 several of which seem to have been taken care of and 1 that has not. 1) The advertising type popups from Steam interfered with proper entry and exit out of games in PinballX. There are lots of things to turn off in settings under the Steam App to try to prevent these notifications. I basically turned them all off. I also tried to run offline but Steam had to let me know each time that I was in offline mode and I could not find a setting to turn off that pop-up. 2) Sometimes Steam or FX2 did not close down properly on exiting a table. The next time you would try to enter a Zen table you would get the notification that the program was already running. To fix this I created a small bat file that runs taskkill for both steam and FX2. Probably overkill but I have it set to run when FX2 loads and exits in the PinballX setup program. 3) This one I have not figured out. When the machine first boots up into PinballX if the first game you select to play is an FX2 game then the backglass video is lost as the game starts. After exiting and restarting the table or if you run a visual pinball game first it shows up just fine? Stuart