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emphatic GameEx God (Top Rank)

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This is something I've learnt to live with, but it's still super annoying. Am I the only one who has to manually change BezelVersion=1 to BezelVersion=2 EVERY time I've changed MAME version?

Please Tom, change the default setting to BezelVersion=2 because I really think most users are using the newest MAME build. It sometimes even changes even though I haven't made any MAME changes.

Emph

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@EMPH:

I hadn't noticed this... Ary you trying to use a custom bezel or no? If the answer's no, what's the difference between 1 and 2? My bezels all work and they look exactly the same (I use a custom bezel so I would definately notice something like that)...

Tom Speirs GameEx God (Top Rank)

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This is something I've learnt to live with, but it's still super annoying. Am I the only one who has to manually change BezelVersion=1 to BezelVersion=2 EVERY time I've changed MAME version?

Please Tom, change the default setting to BezelVersion=2 because I really think most users are using the newest MAME build. It sometimes even changes even though I haven't made any MAME changes.

Emph

If its not setting it to two, it means GameEx is not properly detecting the version of MAME your using. What build are you using?

emphatic GameEx God (Top Rank)

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@EMPH:

I hadn't noticed this... Ary you trying to use a custom bezel or no? If the answer's no, what's the difference between 1 and 2? My bezels all work and they look exactly the same (I use a custom bezel so I would definately notice something like that)...

The difference between BezelVersion 1/2 is how new the MAME build is. Version 1 is for builds previous to the new graphics engine. Version 2 is for the new one. Naturally, most people will use version 2.

If its not setting it to two, it means GameEx is not properly detecting the version of MAME your using. What build are you using?

I just upgraded from 0.113u2 FX to 0.114 (P4 Optimized) but this has been an issue for me ever since the autodetection feature was introduced. How about a (nondefault) feature to turn the autodetection of MAME-version off? I've actually requested it'd be investigated before but no luck. ;) Thanks for the attention! :D

It might help to know that:

What I do when I upgrade to a newer build is "get" the updated roms, update my library using clrmame pro and the MAME build of my choice (this time no FX build was ready for 0.114) change the MAME.exe for GameEx using the Advanced Configuration app, run GameEx and finally Update Game List then I try to launch 1941 since it's the first vertical game in my gamelist and GameEx exits back to the gamelist. I then go into my GameEx CONFIG folder and gameex.ini and do a search/replace for BezelVersion=1 -> BezelVersion=2 in Notepad. Now everything works.

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I've checked my log, and I don't see anywhere that GameEx is checking MAME version? Is that not visible in the log? It just checks the path and .exe name, right?

Emph

emphatic GameEx God (Top Rank)

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Did you find out anything about this Tom? *hides behind cab*

Emph

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Did you find out anything about this Tom? *hides behind cab*

Emph

Can yout post a direct link to the MAME build your using and i'll take a look.

While your back there, dont touch the monitor.

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Can yout post a direct link to the MAME build your using and i'll take a look.

While your back there, dont touch the monitor.

By the way, it will only show in the log each time you change your mame.exe. Not every time.

Play around and post what it says, it should say what mame version it detects or if there is an error running MAME > Help

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emphatic GameEx God (Top Rank)

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Here's my log from when I changed to MAME 0.114 (this was a couple of versions back):

20:44:37.0  2007-04-20:  GameEx: Version 8.07: Starting Log
20:44:37.0  2007-04-20:  Operating System Platform: Win32NT
20:44:37.0  2007-04-20:  Operating System Name: Windows XP
20:44:37.0  2007-04-20:  Operating System Version: 5.1.2600
20:44:37.0  2007-04-20:  Checking for versions of .net Framework installed
20:44:37.0  2007-04-20:  .net Framework 1.1 Installed
20:44:37.0  2007-04-20:  .net Framework 2.0 Installed
20:44:37.0  2007-04-20:  Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz
20:44:37.0  2007-04-20:  2,4Ghz
20:44:37.0  2007-04-20:  Running Randomize()
20:44:37.0  2007-04-20:  Loading PlugIns
20:44:37.1  2007-04-20:  Checking for applications to Launch On Startup
20:44:37.1  2007-04-20:  Launching and not waiting: dualcontrols.exe
20:44:37.1  2007-04-20:  Running Misc startup tasks
20:44:37.1  2007-04-20:  Setting Menu types
20:44:37.1  2007-04-20:  Opening Configuration File
20:44:37.1  2007-04-20:  Getting Configuration Values
20:44:37.1  2007-04-20:  Using Theme: Red&Blue 1024 x 768
20:44:37.1  2007-04-20:  Checking for alternate Image Directory for Theme: Red&Blue 1024 x 768
20:44:37.1  2007-04-20:  Launching HideOS.exe
20:44:37.1  2007-04-20:  Initialising Video/MNG DLL's
20:44:37.1  2007-04-20:  Hiding Taskbar
20:44:37.1  2007-04-20:  Using Cabinet Friendly Control System
20:44:37.1  2007-04-20:  Is Media Center running?
20:44:37.1  2007-04-20:  Checking/Creating LCD Registry values
20:44:37.1  2007-04-20:  Check Media Center Exit/Start Mode
20:44:37.1  2007-04-20:  Media Center Mode 2
20:44:37.1  2007-04-20:  Video previews on. Warning: Only recommended on modern systems
20:44:37.2  2007-04-20:  Custom Keyboard Input enabled: Getting custom codes
20:44:37.2  2007-04-20:  Snap Delay set to: 3
20:44:37.2  2007-04-20:  Get other settings
20:44:37.2  2007-04-20:  Mouse Input is disabled
20:44:37.2  2007-04-20:  Desktop set to Hide ICONS and set Background to Black
20:44:37.2  2007-04-20:  Backing up Registry Wallpaper Settings
20:44:37.2  2007-04-20:  Set: Find emulator artwork on best match basis
20:44:37.2  2007-04-20:  SlikStik support enabled
20:44:37.2  2007-04-20:  Using DirectInput for keyboard input
20:44:37.2  2007-04-20:  Start work for Form
20:44:37.2  2007-04-20:  Getting Original Screen Size
20:44:37.2  2007-04-20:  Initializing Component
20:44:37.3  2007-04-20:  Creating Radio Station Genres
20:44:37.4  2007-04-20:  Succesfully created station genres
20:44:37.4  2007-04-20:  MAME Path is: E:\Spel\MAME
20:44:37.4  2007-04-20:  Model 2 Path Path is: E:\Spel\m2emulator
20:44:37.4  2007-04-20:  Model 2 EXE file is: emulator.exe
20:44:37.4  2007-04-20:  Use Model 2 on. m2launcher.exe will launch Sega Model 2 games
20:44:37.4  2007-04-20:  MAME EXE file is: mame32FXpp.exe
20:44:37.4  2007-04-20:  ROM Path is: E:\Spel\MAME\ROMS
20:44:37.4  2007-04-20:  Catver.ini is located at: C:\Program Files\GameEx\DATA\catver.ini
20:44:37.4  2007-04-20:  History.dat is located at: C:\Program Files\GameEx\DATA\history.dat
20:44:37.4  2007-04-20:  nplayers.ini is located at: C:\Program Files\GameEx\DATA\nplayers.ini
20:44:37.4  2007-04-20:  MAMEinfo.dat is located at: C:\Program Files\GameEx\DATA\mameinfo.dat
20:44:37.4  2007-04-20:  Loading Controls.ini map file
20:44:37.5  2007-04-20:  Snap Path is: E:\Spel\MAME\hitf12
20:44:37.5  2007-04-20:  AVI Snap Path is: E:\Spel\MAME\MNG\ingame
20:44:37.5  2007-04-20:  Flyer Path is: E:\Spel\MAME\flyers
20:44:37.5  2007-04-20:  Cabinet Path is: E:\Spel\MAME\cabinets
20:44:37.5  2007-04-20:  Title Path is: E:\Spel\MAME\titles
20:44:37.5  2007-04-20:  Panel Path: Not Found
20:44:37.5  2007-04-20:  Manual Path: Not Found
20:44:37.5  2007-04-20:  Icon Path is: E:\Spel\MAME\icons
20:44:37.5  2007-04-20:  Marquee Path is: E:\Spel\MAME\marquees
20:44:37.5  2007-04-20:  Loading Custom Emulators
20:44:37.5  2007-04-20:  Loading Emulator 1: PC GAMES
20:44:37.6  2007-04-20:  Loading Emulator 2: Sega Dreamcast (Chankast)
20:44:37.6  2007-04-20:  Loading Emulator 3: SEGA Games
20:44:37.7  2007-04-20:  Loading Emulator 4: Gameboy Advance
20:44:37.7  2007-04-20:  Loading Emulator 5: Comic - 1602
20:44:37.7  2007-04-20:  Loading Emulator 6: Comic - Battle Angel Alita
20:44:37.8  2007-04-20:  Loading Emulator 7: Comic - Elektra V2
20:44:37.9  2007-04-20:  Loading Emulator 8: Comic - Secret War
20:44:38.0  2007-04-20:  Loading Emulator 9: Comic - The New Avengers
20:44:38.0  2007-04-20:  Loading Emulator 10: Comic - The Pulse
20:44:38.1  2007-04-20:  Loading Emulator 11: Comic - Ultimate Fantastic Four
20:44:38.1  2007-04-20:  Loading Emulator 12: Comic - Ultimate Iron Man
20:44:38.2  2007-04-20:  Loading Emulator 13: Comic - Ultimate Marvel Team-Up
20:44:38.2  2007-04-20:  Loading Emulator 14: Comic - Ultimate Six
20:44:38.3  2007-04-20:  Loading Emulator 15: Comic - Ultimate Wolverine vs Hulk
20:44:38.4  2007-04-20:  Loading Emulator 17: Comic - V for Vendetta
20:44:38.4  2007-04-20:  Loading Emulator 18: Game Playback
20:44:38.5  2007-04-20:  Loading Emulator 19: NEC Turbo Grafx 16
20:44:38.6  2007-04-20:  Using 2D Animations
20:44:38.6  2007-04-20:  Using General Font: Trebuchet MS
20:44:38.6  2007-04-20:  Using Title Font: Trebuchet MS
20:44:38.6  2007-04-20:  Initialising DirectDraw
20:44:38.8  2007-04-20:  Applying GameEx is Loading Image
20:44:38.8  2007-04-20:  Creating DirectDraw Device
20:44:38.8  2007-04-20:  Using Device: RADEON 9250
20:44:38.8  2007-04-20:  307mb video memory available
20:44:38.8  2007-04-20:  Setting Resolution to 1024x768 32 bit color
20:44:38.8  2007-04-20:  Creating DirectDraw Surfaces
20:44:38.8  2007-04-20:  Creating Primary Surface - Full Screen Mode
20:44:38.9  2007-04-20:  Creating Back Buffer
20:44:38.9  2007-04-20:  Version 2 Theme being used. Loading.
20:44:38.9  2007-04-20:  Loading Button Data
20:44:38.9  2007-04-20:  Loading Font Data
20:44:38.9  2007-04-20:  Loading Layout Data
20:44:38.9  2007-04-20:  Loading Taskbar Data
20:44:38.9  2007-04-20:  Loading graphic Surfaces
20:44:39.0  2007-04-20:  Creating Surfaces Misc and Dialogs
20:44:39.0  2007-04-20:  Creating Surfaces Volume
20:44:39.0  2007-04-20:  Creating Surfaces Arrows
20:44:39.0  2007-04-20:  Creating Surfaces GameEXlogo Text
20:44:39.0  2007-04-20:  Creating Surfaces Toolbar
20:44:39.0  2007-04-20:  Creating Surfaces Backgrounds
20:44:39.3  2007-04-20:  Creating Surfaces Toolbar Controls
20:44:39.3  2007-04-20:  Creating Surfaces GameEx Logo
20:44:39.3  2007-04-20:  Creating Surfaces Home & Exit
20:44:39.3  2007-04-20:  Creating Surfaces Snaps
20:44:39.3  2007-04-20:  Creating Surfaces Menu and List Bars
20:44:39.4  2007-04-20:  Creating Fonts
20:44:39.4  2007-04-20:  Creating Menu Font
20:44:39.4  2007-04-20:  Restoring Menu Font From Cache
20:44:39.4  2007-04-20:  Creating Game Font
20:44:39.9  2007-04-20:  Creating Font Black
20:44:40.1  2007-04-20:  Creating Font Black Small
20:44:40.3  2007-04-20:  Creating Game Font Faded
20:44:41.2  2007-04-20:  Creating Title Font
20:44:41.2  2007-04-20:  Restoring Title Font From Cache
20:44:41.3  2007-04-20:  Fonts Created Succesfully
20:44:41.3  2007-04-20:  254mb video memory left available
20:44:41.4  2007-04-20:  Text/Language: English
20:44:41.4  2007-04-20:  Applying Language/Text
20:44:41.4  2007-04-20:  Initialising Bass Audio Library
20:44:41.6  2007-04-20:  MAME CMD options: -nvram_directory E:\Spel\MAME\AdvanceMAME\nvram -cfg_directory E:\Spel\MAME\cfg -ctrlrpath E:\Spel\MAME\ctrlr -cheat_file E:\Spel\MAME\cheat.dat -mouse
20:44:41.6  2007-04-20:  Attempting to load game list
20:44:42.0  2007-04-20:  Running: mame32FXpp.exe -help
20:44:42.0  2007-04-20:  Running: E: E:\Spel\MAME\mame32FXpp.exe -help > E:\Spel\MAME\help.txt
20:44:42.2  2007-04-20:  
20:44:42.2  2007-04-20:  Detected MAME Version as: 0.114
20:44:42.2  2007-04-20:  
20:44:42.2  2007-04-20:  Now Outputing mame32FXpp.exe - Help
20:44:42.2  2007-04-20:  
20:44:42.2  2007-04-20:  
20:44:42.2  2007-04-20:  --BEGIN--
20:44:42.2  2007-04-20:  M.A.M.E. v0.114 (Apr 17 2007) - Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator
20:44:42.2  2007-04-20:  Copyright (C) 1997-2007 by Nicola Salmoria and the MAME Team
20:44:42.2  2007-04-20:  
20:44:42.2  2007-04-20:  MAME is an emulator: it reproduces, more or less faithfully, the behaviour of
20:44:42.2  2007-04-20:  several arcade machines. But hardware is useless without software, so an image
20:44:42.2  2007-04-20:  of the ROMs which run on that hardware is required. Such ROMs, like any other
20:44:42.2  2007-04-20:  commercial software, are copyrighted material and it is therefore illegal to
20:44:42.2  2007-04-20:  use them if you don't own the original arcade machine. Needless to say, ROMs
20:44:42.2  2007-04-20:  are not distributed together with MAME. Distribution of MAME together with ROM
20:44:42.2  2007-04-20:  images is a violation of copyright law and should be promptly reported to the
20:44:42.2  2007-04-20:  authors so that appropriate legal action can be taken.
20:44:42.2  2007-04-20:  
20:44:42.2  2007-04-20:  Usage:  MAME gamename [options]
20:44:42.2  2007-04-20:  
20:44:42.2  2007-04-20:		  MAME -showusage	for a brief list of options
20:44:42.2  2007-04-20:		  MAME -showconfig   for a list of configuration options
20:44:42.2  2007-04-20:		  MAME -createconfig to create a mame.ini
20:44:42.2  2007-04-20:  
20:44:42.2  2007-04-20:  For usage instructions, please consult the file windows.txt
20:44:42.2  2007-04-20:  
20:44:42.2  2007-04-20:  --END--
20:44:42.2  2007-04-20:  
20:44:42.2  2007-04-20:  
20:44:42.2  2007-04-20:  Loading last used Game List
20:44:42.7  2007-04-20:  Setting Music Volume
20:44:42.7  2007-04-20:  Cannot Load Play List. Check Path and filename
20:44:42.7  2007-04-20:  Creating DirectSound Device
20:44:42.7  2007-04-20:  Trying: Primary Sound Driver
20:44:42.7  2007-04-20:  Loading Sound Files
20:44:42.7  2007-04-20:  DirectSound Device Created Successfully
20:44:42.7  2007-04-20:  Creating ICONS
20:44:42.8  2007-04-20:  Restoring Cached ICONS from File
20:44:43.1  2007-04-20:  Gamepad/Joystick disabled
20:44:43.1  2007-04-20:  Initialising DirectInput for Keyboard support
20:44:43.2  2007-04-20:  Initializing MCE Remote
20:44:43.2  2007-04-20:  Initialization OK! Starting GameEx!
20:44:43.3  2007-04-20:  Testing Main Loop Once: Processing Frame
20:44:43.8  2007-04-20:  Testing Main Loop Once: Main Loop ran successfully
20:44:49.4  2007-04-20:  Running: cmd.exe /c E: E:\Spel\MAME\mame32FXpp.exe 1941 -rompath E:\Spel\MAME\ROMS -nvram_directory E:\Spel\MAME\AdvanceMAME\nvram -cfg_directory E:\Spel\MAME\cfg -ctrlrpath E:\Spel\MAME\ctrlr -cheat_file E:\Spel\MAME\cheat.dat -mouse -artwork -artwork_directory artwork
20:45:34.0  2007-04-20:  Writing Game List to disk
20:45:34.6  2007-04-20:  Updating MAME Game List
20:45:34.6  2007-04-20:  Running: E: E:\Spel\MAME\mame32FXpp.exe -listxml > E:\Spel\MAME\listinfo.dat
20:45:43.4  2007-04-20:  Opening Listinfo.dat
20:45:44.9  2007-04-20:  Reading ListInfo.dat
20:46:19.8  2007-04-20:  Reading ListInfo.dat - DONE
20:46:19.8  2007-04-20:  Processing ListInfo.dat
20:46:25.0  2007-04-20:  Listinfo.dat Processing Complete
20:46:25.0  2007-04-20:  Sorting MAME Game List
20:46:25.2  2007-04-20:  Adding Catver.ini info to gamelist
20:46:47.6  2007-04-20:  Writing MAME Game List To File
20:46:54.1  2007-04-20:  Adding History.dat info to gamelist
20:47:43.2  2007-04-20:  Adding Nplayers.ini info to gamelist
20:48:04.3  2007-04-20:  Adding History.dat Series info to gamelist
21:02:47.1  2007-04-20:  Adding MAMEInfo.dat info to gamelist
21:11:56.0  2007-04-20:  Writing MAME Game List To File
21:12:14.4  2007-04-20:  Updating Year List
21:12:14.4  2007-04-20:  Updating Manufacturer List
21:12:14.6  2007-04-20:  Updating Category List
21:12:14.7  2007-04-20:  Updating Custom Folders
21:12:14.7  2007-04-20:  Writing Year List To File
21:12:14.7  2007-04-20:  Writing Manufacturer List To File
21:12:14.7  2007-04-20:  Writing Category List To File
21:12:14.7  2007-04-20:  Loading Game List
21:12:15.2  2007-04-20:  Importing MAME32 Favorites
21:12:15.2  2007-04-20:  Recreating ICONS
21:12:35.5  2007-04-20:  Attract Mode Re-Enabled
21:12:48.8  2007-04-20:  Running: cmd.exe /c E: E:\Spel\MAME\mame32FXpp.exe 1941 -rompath E:\Spel\MAME\ROMS -nvram_directory E:\Spel\MAME\AdvanceMAME\nvram -cfg_directory E:\Spel\MAME\cfg -ctrlrpath E:\Spel\MAME\ctrlr -cheat_file E:\Spel\MAME\cheat.dat -mouse -artwork -artwork_directory artwork
21:13:00.9  2007-04-20:  Exiting GameEx!
21:13:01.0  2007-04-20:  Saving Settings
21:13:02.9  2007-04-20:  Disposing Plugins
21:13:02.9  2007-04-20:  Checking for applications to Launch On Exit
21:13:02.9  2007-04-20:  Launching and waiting: normalcontrols.bat

Today I installed the lastest GameEx version (not having any issues with favorites and such) and a new 0.114u2 romset. This bezelversion issue remains.

Emph

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