Xbox 360 Media Player?

[jackbutler]

Does anyone know of a way to get GameEx to show up on the Xbox 360 Media Center? I have it installed and it shows up fine on my pc but when I start Media Center on the 360 it does not show up. I can go under the options on other programs and it is listed with a checkbox to show/hide it but when I check the box and go back under other programs it isnt there. I would love to be able to play MAME through my 360 on my TV so any help would be appreciated.....

[EMKO]

thats not possible

[tbear]

Well I just posted the same thing. I am looking to do this with my normal Xbox. I haven't had any success yet but I think it is possible. I installed the Weather plugin and it works great on my xbox MC. My configuration is PC with two nic's one wireless, the other uses a cross-over cable to my xbox. Both NIC's on PC are on seperate subnet scopes. The trick there is to put no Gateway address on the PC for the NIC using the cross over cable. Xbox pulls data through PC using the NIC on PC as it's Gateway. The weather pulls data from internet with no problems and playback of video is flawless (100MB). I have PC is living room and TV in the other room with the cables going through the wall. Sweet setup. I only wish my TV card was a daul

If I have any success I'll post it here. Please do the same.

Additional note: After thinking about it, it might not be possible. GameEx is really a program of it's own and not a plugin. It only places a link to the app. But still I would think that technically it would be possible but might not be programmed in a way to work in this fashion. Hopefully somebody will be able to make it happen.

Tbear

[glitch]

here is a tip, I believe I remember reading there is a way to stream video from a pc to the xbox 360? correct?

Well use a program that captures your on screen stuff and use another program that immediatly streams out the video file created by the screen capture program. Only problem is the possibility of lag time. And this is assuming your using the controller of your pc or wireless pc controller.

Yesterday TSpiers mentioned to someone about renting a coder at www.rentacoder.com and you can place bids on how much your willing to pay someone to code it. While for you with the normal xbox it is viable that someone could code something similar to GameEx, dunno if you could call it a port unless xbox can do DOS to execute its programs, otherwise it would have to be coded completely different probably.

However the 360 is screwed til more is known about how to program homebrew for it.

[tbear]

Well streaming media can be done in several ways. VLC, Media Player encoder are just two that can stream video over a LAN or the Internet. But to stream a live desktop is a little more challenging. I would say SMS with remote tools could pull a live desktop, but I haven't ever thought about pushing a live desktop or app over the wire. Even if it was possible, a TV in another room posses issues with the controller, you would need either a blue tooth or RF based controller or a really long USB ext cable. Which would be less than desireable. I have played GameEX on my TV using S-video from my PC but it's not the concept of what I'm trying to accomplish.

As for Xbox and Dos, yea you should be able to do that, You should be able to produce a bootable DVD with any PE you want on it (linux, ERDcommander, BartsPE). But the object really is to put gameex inside of MC on the xbox. I personally have gone down the route of creating such a DVD but if Microsoft can produce a MCX then surely the rest of us coiuld.

[tbear]

GameEx could work with the extender but it would need to be a HTML file that calls on the roms. So I guess the questions goes, is there any program like GameEX that is HTML based?

[Tom Speirs]

GameEx could work with the extender but it would need to be a HTML file that calls on the roms. So I guess the questions goes, is there any program like GameEX that is HTML based?

Yes, but what about MAME and the emulators themselves, when they run.

I have thought about an HTML version of GameEx, but you still have the problem above.

I also had the thought on streaming GameEx via video, but again you still have the problem of the emulators themselves. I also think there would be a big lag, and can think of no way to synchronize the video off hand.

To be honest, with all these roadbloaks, I think its more likely we will see a homebrew XBox Media Centre for the 360 rather than GameEx running on it. Its really not designed to do this stuff from what I can tell. Although I do have an interest.

[EMKO]

yea the homebrew xbox media center is the best media player i ever had it could do almost anything stream all my movies plus loads up all the xbox emulators and xbox games.

[tbear]

Yes, but what about MAME and the emulators themselves, when they run.

I have thought about an HTML version of GameEx, but you still have the problem above.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

First off I must say thanks for creating GameEx. There are others out there but this is the best in my book. It's nice to see the technology working through the various challenges. Your app being a missing link. I'm sure down the road everything will come together nicely.

As for the quote above, yes you have a valid point. Either the HTML will have to work kinda like a DOS-box but with HTML running the emulator or it will actually have to emulate the various emulator types. That's a tough one either way. I'll have to watch things for a bit and maybe I can pull a rabbit out of my hat with a tweak here or there.

As for any lag stuff I wouldn't worry about it, cross over cable reduces any router lag and is a direct 100M connection.

Tbear

[tijir]

Yes, but what about MAME and the emulators themselves, when they run.

I have thought about an HTML version of GameEx, but you still have the problem above.

I also had the thought on streaming GameEx via video, but again you still have the problem of the emulators themselves. I also think there would be a big lag, and can think of no way to synchronize the video off hand.

To be honest, with all these roadbloaks, I think its more likely we will see a homebrew XBox Media Centre for the 360 rather than GameEx running on it. Its really not designed to do this stuff from what I can tell. Although I do have an interest.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

There is alot of effort going into the xbox360 hacking scene on being the first to come up with the way to run custom content on the 360 (emu's, different codecs, etc). The point I am working to is check out http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=488108 on a great MCE program for transcoding video codecs (other than WMA and streaming them to the 360. It is an open source project I believe, and with what you have already done with tis program Tom, you might find an idea that leads to or a solution for porting emu's to the 360 through one of these projects... i

By the way, I love GamEx. I think it is the greatest emulator frontend of all time and to see it go forward and be the first to serve MAME and other emus to the 360 would be awsome

Oh the Transcode project (see link above) is beeing headed by one of the guys who co-created XBMC...

[headkaze]

Remote Desktop can actually play some Mame games at a decent frame rate so perhaps it could be possible. Probably without sound though.

[tijir]

Remote Desktop can actually play some Mame games at a decent frame rate so perhaps it could be possible. Probably without sound though.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

This may be totally offbase and I probably do not know what I am talking about but aren't video codecs a type of emulator? This guy has DivX running on the Xbox360, as well as a couple of other codecs, which is awsome, since you can stream video from the desktop to the 360, which the 360 does not support at this time (video streams), to my knowledge.

[headkaze]

This may be totally offbase and I probably do not know what I am talking about but aren't video codecs a type of emulator? This guy has DivX running on the Xbox360, as well as a couple of other codecs, which is awsome, since you can stream video from the desktop to the 360, which the 360 does not support at this time (video streams), to my knowledge.

It is similar since it's video being streamed. Remote Desktop streams audio and video too, although the actual codec used with Remote Desktop may be different. RD wouldn't use DivX, but probably some sort of compressed format. You can get better frame rates using higher compression but complex algorithms will give a realtime performance hit since RD needs to code/decode on the fly it will use a compression routine that is quick both ways. DivX is a good compression ratio, and is fast to decompress but slow to compress - not good for realtime compression.