What a disappointment!

[climber]

Man, I dusted off my old MAME CD thinking it was time to play again.

Gamex was such a hassle. The old MAME Windows 3.1 emulator from 10 years ago was so much more stable. Half of my ROMS didn't even play on Gamex. Even major ones like Galaga.

Also, the fact Gamex admittedly doesn't work through an MCE extender is unacceptable i.e. XBOX 360 (see post here: http://www.gameex.info/forums/index.php?sh...482&hl=xbox ) Why build a PC when a much cheaper XBOX works better in your living room? And no, streaming is not a problem since you can stream a freaking TV show. I'd much rather play the old classics with a controller than a keyboard (or buy an analog stick). I've installed NES emulators that work this way, so I don't know why this would be done with MAME.

It seems weird this would be advertised for Media Center PCs. Who gives a crap about themes? The other features are already done better in Media PCs i.e. internet radio, photos. What does this program add that generic MAME and MCE 2005 don't do better? Some interesting 80s trivia perhaps.

The old base emulator's GUI is so much better. Talk about a let down. Yes, I've already uninstalled it.

I'm sure I'll be told "if you don't like it, don't use it". I absolutely won't be.

[Herbiman44]

How old was the PC you were trying to run mame, and then gameex on? the same age as your disk 10 years? maybe its time for a upgrade,

I dont mind people complaining about things that are truly problems but it sounds like you have a anger management problem!

Gameex does not play the mame games itself it uses an external aplications to do that ie Mame32 so maybe you should try using a diffent mame Emulator if you are having problems on you 486DX2 LMAO!!!!!?

as for your coments on the xbox 360 extender , if you would like a mame emulator for yur xbox360 maybe you should look into the hombrew communitie for that console, Thankfuly gameex is a program for PCs not CONSOLES so maybe you should think a little about that fact before you come on toms much loved message boards!

Keep up the good work TOM!

[emphatic]

Hi and welcome to this forum!

Please don't confuse GameEx with MAME. GameEx does not run your old, poorly updated romsets, but is in fact just a way to conveniently see all your games through Windows Media Center edition. That's why it's beeing advertised to that "crowd". It's also currently being updated. Use GameEx with a fresh version of MAME and with a set of roms that corresponds to that MAME version, and you will see that this actually works.

That was the initial idea with GameEx, but now it's also a standalone application for people with gaming cabinets, hence the themes, the video playback, the karaoke, the jukebox, the picture show etc.

I guess that complaining about not understanding instantly how to get something to work is easier than actually spending that time on getting that something working. Next time you should perhaps read a bit more, then ask questions.

Why be a hater, when you can be a player?

Emph

[climber]

How old was the PC you were trying to run mame, and then gameex on? the same age as your disk 10 years? maybe its time for a upgrade,

Yo douche, the ROMS are 10 years old. Do you really think I could get Windows XP/Media Center 2005 on a 10 year old PC. What an idiot! They work fine in MAME. With Gamex, the free or boot back to the MCE main window for no reason.

Also, the lack of extender support is worthless. Evening mentioning this works as a Media Center PC app is a complete waste. No media PC enthusiast would ever waste their time with this program.

[Herbiman44]

Hi and welcome to this forum!

Please don't confuse GameEx with MAME. GameEx does not run your old, poorly updated romsets, but is in fact just a way to conveniently see all your games through Windows Media Center edition. That's why it's beeing advertised to that "crowd". It's also currently being updated. Use GameEx with a fresh version of MAME and with a set of roms that corresponds to that MAME version, and you will see that this actually works.

That was the initial idea with GameEx, but now it's also a standalone application for people with gaming cabinets, hence the themes, the video playback, the karaoke, the jukebox, the picture show etc.

I guess that complaining about not understanding instantly how to get something to work is easier than actually spending that time on getting that something working. Next time you should perhaps read a bit more, then ask questions.

Why be a hater, when you can be a player?

Emph

Dito,

Sorry if i came on on a bit strong, Probally too many beers after the BBQ and the English Heatwave thats making me sweat like a hog!

Work hard and play even harder!

much respect to the gameex team..

[climber]

Dito,

Sorry if i came on on a bit strong, Probally too many beers after the BBQ and the English Heatwave thats making me sweat like a hog!

Work hard and play even harder!

much respect to the gameex team..

It's too bad. If this software let me play my ROM collection with a controller on the living room big screen TV, I'd gladly pay the retail game price $55 for this software. With no extender support, and a glitchy PC GUI -- No thanks.

Hopefully that will change in time.

[Herbiman44]

It's too bad. If this software let me play my ROM collection with a controller on the living room big screen TV, I'd gladly pay the retail game price $55 for this software. With no extender support, and a glitchy PC GUI -- No thanks.

Hopefully that will change in time.

I highly doubt that gameex will ever play or be able to suport your very old rom set, you will have to upgrade to a newer set of roms if you would like to use gameex great features, but i doubt you would want to do this as you dont like the features anyway so go and waste your anger somewhere useful and find your self a newer working romset! and wait for a morre suitble front end to moan about!

and for the record no im not an idiot or douche you just dont oviously understand my great english humor!

Dont let the hatters get you down, just let the funny little lepricorns play....

[hansolo77]

Why is this guy even posting such a retarded topic? The forum isn't for bashing, it's for helping. If we had a FLAMING forum, then by all means let it out. But believe it or not, people use this, and love it. And I, for one, am getting sick and tired of hearing about stupid idiots complaining because it doesn't work for them. The front page of the website says very clearly that it is an MCE Plugin, not an MCE app. It's not designed to run ROMS. It's designed to be a FRONT-END. Perhaps you need to do some research and look up a wiki on the term. And you're right. If you don't like it, don't use it. But don't bash the program in the forum.. thats just showing your ignorance. I'm sure you didn't buy the program.. if you did, you really ARE stupid. You should always try before you buy when the option is available. And I love the little fact you gave about MAME for Windows 3.1. That's just funny. If you are trying to run your ROMS on a 15 year old OS, you're SOL (if I have to expalin that acronym to you, you truely are stupid). If not, you'll probably find that your ROMS on your CD from 15 years ago are out of date, and probably ARE unplayable. You need to search the internet, download some RECENT versions of the ROMS, a RECENT version of MAME, and just use the fricken built in GUI for it. If you get tired of that, THEN give GameEx a go.

Dammit now I'm all pissed again. This was gonna be such a nice day too.

[TimeBandit]

I'm sure I'll be told "if you don't like it, don't use it". I absolutely won't be.

I really don't understand why some people are so bent out of shape that they feel the need to just post their vent to a group of strangers. All over ROMS not playing?!?!

You're right, if something isn't what you want, then don't use it. Thats the great thing about GameEX being FREE to TRY.

But if you think this is the way to make Tom change GameEX for your needs, I would guess that won't work. If you want people to support and agree with your points, I doubt that will happen.

Glad you uninstall it successfully and hopefully you will find your answer elsewhere.

::boggled::

[Atari800]

Then use your 10 year old software on your 10 year old computer like you did 10 years ago and get over it.

Or get a MAC - a pc specifically designed for stupid people

Or at least give us an example you what yuor problem is other than GAMEEX DOESNT MAKE MY GAMES PLAY

10 year old stuff.... you may be right - I dont think GAMEEX can run on a 286

[TimeBandit]

Or at least give us an example you what yuor problem is other than GAMEEX DOESNT MAKE MY GAMES PLAY

I don't think when someone vents out like this are really interested in having us troubleshoot their problems. Well, at least the problems we can fix.

[emphatic]

It's too bad. If this software let me play my ROM collection with a controller on the living room big screen TV, I'd gladly pay the retail game price $55 for this software. With no extender support, and a glitchy PC GUI -- No thanks.

Hopefully that will change in time.

This I just copied from www.gameex.net -> "You will receive a key in your email for donations of £12 Pounds (approx $21 Dollars) or more and become a registered GameEx user. "

I would like to know where you've found your GameEx installer. Perhaps it's not up to date. There has been bugs in the past, but for now, GameEx is very stable.

This software also actually will let you play your ROM collection with a controller on the living room big screen TV if rightly configured. On a PC connected to your TV. I'm guessing that this was some sort of magic "plug & play" program. There's a very comprehensive configuration program, and if you just install it right, "just for games" and "mce plugin", it shouldn't be (as YOU describe it) a "hassle".

Btw, you have a very nice attitude... FOR ME TO POOP ON.

Emph

I don't think when someone vents out like this are really interested in troubleshooting their problems. Well, at least the problems we can fix.

Well, at least he's "polite" enough to come back on this forum and keep this thread alive.

Emph

[NIVO]

both mame and the romsets have evolved and continue to do so with every release, its an ongoing project. Folks would be glad to help out if you would be kind. Rudeness doesnt get you anywhere my friend. Romsets must match the mame version(from reading your post I assume you had roms and mame working fine together). So perhaps to perform a simple test you may want to download a new version of mame and a current rom, and simply try again.

Also another note, if you decide to grab a new version of mame, insert the rom inside that folder, and try to load the rom from the command prompt. If you suceed here, then atleast we know mame works for you, then you can move on to gameex and try to set it up as well. Good Luck.

[Marker0077]

Gamex was such a hassle. The old MAME Windows 3.1 emulator from 10 years ago was so much more stable. Half of my ROMS didn't even play on Gamex. Even major ones like Galaga.

There's an option to have GameEx play imperfect ROMs but I have no clue what you're on about with Galaga. Works fine for me. You may just need to update your ROMs, tons of improvements have been made over the years by the MAME team & I highly doubt they made changes to the ROM files for no appearent reason.

I don't mess with emulating other systems to XBOX at all but I would think if you're having problems getting Galaga to work on your XBOX, sounds like a problem on your emulators end - not GameEx's.

Why build a PC when a much cheaper XBOX works better in your living room?

An XBOX does not even come anywhere remotely close to comparing to a PC; There's a ton of more stuff you can do on a PC that you can not on a console system. The 1 big benefit of a console system is it's alot more user-friendly, you don't have as much hassle as far as setting it up goes.

Secondly, you can set your PC up as a console system if you like. This is how I have mine set up to my TV in the living room. I have it set up so that media center loads on startup, I can use my remote to watch TV, play movies, do whatever, or switch to GameEx & play any of my PC games or any of the games out there from Coleco to Nintendo 64 (or PS1 & some PS2). I also do not need my keyboard to play, I have a Logitech Rumblepad 2 controller which is exactly like a PS2 controller (including vibration). It loads a specific configuration for any program automatically. I can bind any key to any joystick button, or macro, or cycle of keys & I can use 1 button as a shift to make all the other buttons do other stuff... well, I think you get the point. So...

Advantages to a console system... Not as much hassle & is more affordable.

Disadvantages to a console system... Can't do half the stuff a PC can. If a game came out for console & for PC, they're going to be identical or the PC version is going to be better (which is the case most of the time).

So you can't use GameEx as your FE for XBOX, so use a different one. I really just don't see what the big deal is. GameEx is the best FE for PC, I would think there is a XBOX FE out there that can do some of the same stuff.

it seems weird this would be advertised for Media Center PCs. Who gives a crap about themes? The other features are already done better in Media PCs i.e. internet radio, photos. What does this program add that generic MAME and MCE 2005 don't do better?

Aside from not being able to disable the option to delete files, Media Center does a better job with Media content. In other words, there's no point in having a DVD player in GameEx if you have one in Media Center, however, alot of people are using GameEx on Home or Pro, so this gives them Media Center options without actually having Media Center.

So I agree with you that there are some things that Media Center does better than GameEx but there are a ton of things GameEx does better & the nice thing about GameEx is, what you don't like - disable. Keep what you like, toss what you don't. All praise Tom, the pimp daddy of FE software.

Do you really think I could get Windows XP/Media Center 2005 on a 10 year old PC.

I was guessing that you were referring to 10 years ago, not you still had the PC today; But whatever, it's neither here nor there. You either need to update the ROMs & MAME or use your old ROMs with a reeeeaaaaaalllllyyyy outdated version of MAME.

Look dude, I understand your frustration, some of this is a bit of a hurdle & in all reality it shouldn't be (some of us are working on ways to simplify the process), but you need to understand that if MAME is not running your games - it's MAMEs fault - not GameEx's. Have you recently tried running just MAME on your PC?

Also, I thought we were talking about making your stuff work on XBOX. You need to get an XBOX emulator & an XBOX frontend if you want to do that. If you want to get this going on your PC, I wouldn't use GameEx on that outdated system, you need all the resources you can get with that thing (no offense).

With Gamex, the free or boot back to the MCE main window for no reason.

Dude, you are all over the place. You already said that you can't get MCE running on that old system yet now you are saying it boots back to MCE, are we talking about a totally different system here?

Evening mentioning this works as a Media Center PC app is a complete waste. No media PC enthusiast would ever waste their time with this program.

Ummm, do you know what Media Center is? You do know that it is a specific type of Windows XP operating system & Media Center is a program that uses a unique menuing system (incredibly similar to GameEx) so that the PC can be easily controlled with a Media Center remote, etc; etc..... you know this right? Because what you are saying doesn't add up.

I'm seriously not trying to be rude or belittle you, I just want to make sure we're on the same page here & it just doesn't seem like we're even reading the same book.

It's too bad. If this software let me play my ROM collection with a controller on the living room big screen TV, I'd gladly pay the retail game price $55 for this software. With no extender support, and a glitchy PC GUI -- No thanks.

First off, it's $22 for the software. the 44 is in pounds (very useful to know when paying for it BTW, wish someone would have told me that :-p).

Secondly, you keep blaming all of your problems on GameEx, it's JUST A FRONTEND DUDE. It's a menu system - that's it, it doesn't actually run the games - MAME does. Get it working in MAME, when you get to that point, we'll work out the GameEx issue. If you're not willing to try to get it working then drop the subject.

I really don't understand why some people are so bent out of shape that they feel the need to just post their vent to a group of strangers. All over ROMS not playing?!?!

I do, I totally do. I've been building & programming computers for over 10 years, when I coulldn't get Arcade emulation working on a PC, it was like a slap in the face. Wayne Brady was soooooooo ready to choke a bitch, but I eventually figured it out & now I'm going to spend some of my time making this easier for others.

One thing I don't agree with is him bashing on others, however, if you read up he didn't start the bashing, he just wouldn't let the flame die out for a bit there. Sometimes when you are upset choosing choice verbage isn't realistic. Anyways, just saying, I can relate to the frustration - totally.

So, how many of you actually read this book of a post?

[headkaze]

Also, the fact Gamex admittedly doesn't work through an MCE extender is unacceptable i.e. XBOX 360 (see post here: http://www.gameex.info/forums/index.php?sh...482&hl=xbox ) Why build a PC when a much cheaper XBOX works better in your living room? And no, streaming is not a problem since you can stream a freaking TV show. I'd much rather play the old classics with a controller than a keyboard (or buy an analog stick). I've installed NES emulators that work this way, so I don't know why this would be done with MAME.

I don't understand this paragraph especially when you link to a post that explains why it's technically impossible to stream games through to an extender using the RD protocol. MAME itself can't be streamed so how does having a FE running on an extender help in any way when the emulators themselves wont work.

Just because TV can stream over the wires it has nothing to do with streaming games or realtime generated graphics. They are completely different things, video is a simple matter of streaming and decoding pre-coded video frames over the wires, running a DirectX/DirectShow application is not possible this way. Your comparing chalk and cheese.

It may not even be possible with Windows Vista or any time soon. The emulators that do work through an extender are running as an embedded object in an HTML form, using Java or Flash. These technologies are designed to run through a limited bandwidth. Even a port of MAME to Java would only allow you to run a handful of ROMs and the speed would be questionable.

GameEx is a FE, and has nothing to do with the development of MAME, so you would have to ask someone else for a Java port because this is not the place. Try running any DirectX game through your extender and you will be sadly dissappointed that it is not possible to do so.

So go and complain to Microsoft that their RD technology won't allow streaming of high speed graphics. It's something alot of people are annoyed about.

So besides the technical impossibility of what your suggesting, and your demonstration in lack of understanding the technology your whinging about, the MCE userbase is only a small portion of the greater userbase. For example I don't run GameEx on an MCE machine, I use it on an XP machine in an arcade cabinet. People who run GameEx on an MCE machine obviously run it directly on the PC, not through an extender.

GameEx will never run through an extender to your XBOX unless Microsoft decide to update the RD protocol and DirectX API's to allow for such a thing. Nothing else will be able to do what you want for a long time either, so it's a futile argument your presenting here.

[Smiff]

yeah it's disappointing - to see this discussion.

i'd lock the thread after the first post and tell the person to come back when he's got a clue about what he's complaining about, AND lost the 'tude, or not come back at all.

it's not even worth you good people responding to something so confused and rude. if someone's just trolling, don't give the satisfaction of a response. you can be too kind imho.

[Atari800]

.....Lost the 'tude.... I like that

[headkaze]

i'd lock the thread after the first post and tell the person to come back when he's got a clue about what he's complaining about, AND lost the 'tude, or not come back at all.

I guess your right, this discussion has gone as far as it can.

*Locked*